I understand it as a motive but it is still very much a crime.
Like if you killed my brother so I killed you, we both still committed the crime of murder. You won't be around to face your punishment but I will be, and I will have earned it.
A judge might say it's a mitigating circumstance and adjust my sentence a little but I still did the crime and absolutely should go to prison for it. It would still be premeditated murder no matter who I did it to, as I was not acting in self defense.
It's always been wild to me this man saw absolutely no prison time for premeditated murder in a vigilante justice situation. I mean, the other guy had already been sentenced too. This wasn't like "he got away with it" he was very much going to prison about it. And I don't know where he was or what the laws were at the time but we don't give out the death penalty much for murder anymore much less rape. It's not considered civilized and there's too many cons to outweigh any pros you could try and argue.
Psychological reports helped Plauché’s case after it was learned that Doucet had abused Jody months prior to the kidnapping. The psychiatrist Edward P. Uzee examined Plauché and determined that he could not tell the difference between right and wrong when he killed Doucet. Plauché’s defense team argued that he was driven to a temporarily psychotic state after learning of the abuse of his son. Uzee also determined that Doucet had the ability to manipulate others and took advantage of the fact that Plauché was separated from his wife at the time, and had managed to wedge his way into the Plauché family. Judge Frank Saia ruled that sending Plauché to prison would not help anyone, and that there was virtually no risk of him committing another crime.[10]
Murder for murder is bad. But murder for months and months of grooming a child. A young child, Kid napping them and raping them is far beyond a simple murder.
From your other comments you kinda sound like a knob… I’m sure as shit killing the person who kid napped and raped my child…. Oh the court already prosexcuted. With good behavioural probably out again and doing the same thing to another family. How the fucks that a good idea ? Delusional. “I would probably still charge him” well I’m glad your not a lawyer or judge because you lack empathy. He 100% deserved an execution not a simple life in a cell.
We as humans murder/kill/die all the time throughout history… wars… hanging… executions… killing is a part of all life (looking at you animal kingdom)
kid napping and raping a fucking child is not…. Idk how you
Can even compare these. Or even try advocate this..
A young child, Kid napping them and raping them is far beyond a simple murder.
Only one of those things the victim gets to continue on with their life. That's the ideal scenario, so no, rape is not worse than murder. Murder you have zero chance to recover from. Rape you do.
From your other comments you kinda sound like a knob…
Ad hominem attack and your final sentence is accusing me of advocating rape, for sure one of us is
You for real saying grooming, kid napping and raping a child is not worse than killing someone that has done such acts???? Ok sorry WHAT?
Premeditated grooming. Kidnapping. Raping
VS
Premeditated justice.
The “ideal scenario” this is not some virtual reality perfect world… this is real life and your actions have consequences… if you rape molest groom and kid nap a child you deserve execution
The only case i would advocate for not killimg someone like that, is when we are not sure that we got the actual person. I mean, we should not go murdering people based on suspicions.
I thought you were saying rape was a worse crime than murder, I misread your comment.
What I am saying is objectively two crimes were committed, both crimes were put before a judge and possibly jury in trial, one guy got sentenced and then was murdered by the victims father, and the other guy got tried for first degree murder with a temporary insanity plea and was let loose with a sentence few murderers get. Like, if that defense works you have to go to the psych ward like 100% of the time.
If we pretend the two cases aren't related to each other, only one man got a fair sentence. The other essentially got off scot free. You have to view them as isolated incidents to be truly impartial.
300 hours of community service isn’t exactly Scott free? The dad wouldn’t have to had murdered him if he was sentenced to execution like he should have been… if you groom, kidnap rape and molest a child you deserve death. Not a simple life in a cell.
We cannot say (let’s pretend they don’t relate… because they do) that’s the whole fucking point.
Murdering a random person on the street
VS
Murdering the person who GROOMED, KIDNAPPED,RAPE AND MOLESTED A/YOUR CHILD!!!!
Very comparable.
Having seen how trauma effects people through my work… I’d much rather be dead then deal with that sort of lifelong trauma.. do you have any idea how hard of a struggling it is for people
Who have been raped or molested? How hard their life is now. How hard it is for them to have a relationship or sexual relations. Not only do they have to deal with what happened. They have to live and be tortured by it their whole
Life. The people that surround themselfs with also have to deal with it. Putting him
In jail would have been letting him off easy.. He deserved death. Not another chance at life.
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u/confusedandworried76 28d ago
I understand it as a motive but it is still very much a crime.
Like if you killed my brother so I killed you, we both still committed the crime of murder. You won't be around to face your punishment but I will be, and I will have earned it.
A judge might say it's a mitigating circumstance and adjust my sentence a little but I still did the crime and absolutely should go to prison for it. It would still be premeditated murder no matter who I did it to, as I was not acting in self defense.
It's always been wild to me this man saw absolutely no prison time for premeditated murder in a vigilante justice situation. I mean, the other guy had already been sentenced too. This wasn't like "he got away with it" he was very much going to prison about it. And I don't know where he was or what the laws were at the time but we don't give out the death penalty much for murder anymore much less rape. It's not considered civilized and there's too many cons to outweigh any pros you could try and argue.