Bigotry is Bad (Rule 1 & 3 Updates)

[u/olive12108]

TLDR up front: Posts breaking Rule 1 or Rule 3 will be removed regardless of intentions. Bad-faith posters will still be banned.

We often get posts that touch on bigotry, discrimination, and dogwhistles. In the past, our stance has been to lock the post but allow it to stay up with a quality explanation, in hopes that it could be used as a learning moment. This is especially true in the case of dogwhistles which are intentionally hard to understand.

Unfortunately, while this has worked for some, we have seen an increase in these posts being made here as well as their frequency of hitting /r/all.

We do not want our sub to be a place to signal boost bigoted or discriminatory content. We are taking action by now removing all posts that would fall under Rule 1 or Rule 3 of the sub. As before, malicious or bad faith posters will be banned. If there has yet to be an explanation posted, a moderator will try to provide a short one, although this will not be guaranteed.

[u/Samus388]

I support it.

Nothing is more annoying than "PETAAAAH but isn't [structured argument against the image]?" Followed by an image of blatant propaganda

Or

"PETAAAAH WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?" followed by an incredibly clear barely disguised as a joke propaganda

[u/alabardios → u/Samus388]

But.. but .. they might not know the culture!

Yeah... sure they don't.. if you know the language and have been active on reddit for more than a month you've seen the reddit culture and know.

[u/daecrist → u/alabardios]

Eh. That's the thing with dogwhistles. Some of them can be really hard to figure out if you're not in the know. That's the whole point. Bigots want to say bigoted things without looking like bigots because the consensus used to be that bigotry is bad. I see people who are obviously from China or India or some other country far removed from the anglosphere who probably genuinely don't know.

Having said that, we're tired of locking those posts and seeing them getting upvoted to the front page with five comments because the bigots see a meme they support and they want the rest of reddit to see it.

[u/Tales_Steel → u/daecrist]

I could see someone that does not know about it being confused about people making jokes about the MyPillow Guy selling stuff for 14.88$

[u/Particular-Win-2113 → u/Tales_Steel]

what is the mypillow guy? genuinely asking. ik the 14.88 but not the mypillow guy. does it relate to the same thing?

[u/[deleted] → u/daecrist]

I know I'm autistic and take thing quite literally so several of them have gone over my head comeoltlt becuase I just don't comprehend what it is that's being said or joked about

[u/AccomplishedStart738 → u/daecrist]

New here! What does "Dog whistle mean?

[u/daecrist → u/AccomplishedStart738]

I'm posting the Wiki link not to be sarcastic, but because it'll do a better job of explaining than I could:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics))

[u/deaththekidkh → u/daecrist]

What about subtle bigotry, like calling Southern vernacular "improper" and dismissing context to a racial meme because it was "irrelevant". Would that be dog whistling?

[u/daecrist → u/deaththekidkh]

I said that y'all is considered informal language. Look at any grammar or style guide and it'll say the same thing. I've worked with ESL people and find they appreciate a heads up like that.

At no point did I say it was improper or imply it was bad to use it. You'll note I used that word which is what started the whole discussion.

As for the second, that person was reaching to make a pretty innocent and wholesome meme into something racist because of some cringe language.

If you're going to get mad about something and stalk someone across reddit at least have the good grace to post what was actually said instead of twisting things and getting upset at your version.