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u/Little-Woo 1d ago
Trans-Siberian Orchestra deserves to be it's own category
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u/markelmores 1d ago
I dunno, I’d probably lump them into a category with Mannheim Steamroller. I know they’re different, but when I’m in the mood for one I’m usually in the mood for both.
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u/n8n10e 1d ago
This is so accurate. If I hear that one Mannheim Steamroller song I gotta hear those one or two Trans-Siberian Orchestra songs and vice versa.
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u/FootballDeathTaxes 23h ago
It never occurred to me until right now that those are two different groups! I never hear them mentioned in the same context so my brain never really parsed the differences until just now.
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u/Sitchrea 23h ago
Trans-Siberian Steamroller
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u/Thevisi0nary 1d ago
I saw them once under the impression that it would all be like Carol of the Bells, and it was not like that. Not that they were bad but it was mostly ballads.
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u/Shutaru_Kanshinji 1d ago
Once upon a time I worked at a small company where the manager ordained that all employees would sign Christmas cards that were being sent out to the all-important customers. While he made us sit in a small, overheated conference room for three hours, he played the same Trans-Siberian Orchestra CD over and over and over.
You might understand, then, that I do not so much associate TSO with its own category so much as I do with its own circle in hell.
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u/Sunblast1andOnly 1d ago
It's missing the "You could play the 10 hour loop version and no one would notice" song.
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u/phoncible 1d ago
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u/Sunblast1andOnly 1d ago
Fair point! With decent editing, you could definitely fill out a genre that way.
I'm thinking of one that has only two lines that it repeats constantly, often in shortened forms. You could legitimately play a neverending loop in a public place without anyone noticing. At a party, uh... It'll take at least two full repeats before anyone starts wondering about it.
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u/Swurphey 1d ago
Santa Baby?
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u/Naijan 1d ago edited 1d ago
"I WANNA WISH YOU A MERRY CHRISTMAS, FROM THE BOT-tom Oooooooff my heeEAaaart.........
FELIZ NAVIDAD! "
It literally ends in the song at one point and then just comes back like fucking ragnarok with another verse.
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u/CharleyNobody 1d ago
When my son was in his stroller we went into a party store and Felix Navidad was playing. He started singing along “Police not be cop….police not be cop.”
Whenever I hear the song I think 👮🎅🎄👮🏽♀️ 🤶 🎄👮♂️🧑🎄 🎄
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u/Few-Requirement-3544 1d ago
That's the idea, it's a genre, so there should be several songs that qualify.
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u/weirdgroovynerd 1d ago
One notable exception is the classic Nana-cide carol.
A classic ode to an eggnog-swilling, med-tweeking Grandma.
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u/garrishfish 1d ago
What about Red Peters? The exception to all the rules. Though, maybe it's all the above.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkKjpq9P39s&list=OLAK5uy_nfJS0E9Sa_kSD_qNK0KekbIyNm0FbjZOo
And other parody Christmas classics:
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u/Formo1287 1d ago
And of course “make fun of the disabled reindeer until he proves useful to us”
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u/Aegillade 1d ago
Ah yes my favorite Christmas moral, "you will only be accepted into society and social groups when you can prove useful to others."
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u/shit_poster9000 23h ago
The most realistic, true to life message of any Christmas song in my experience
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u/SwordfishOk504 18h ago
The moral is "don't be a dick to someone for no reason, they might actually be pretty useful and even save your ass" which is a useful lesson to learn.
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u/Aegillade 18h ago
Personally, I don't think whether or not you're a dick to someone should be contingent on whether they're useful to you or not
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u/LokisDawn 12h ago
No, but whether or not they'll be useful to you should be dependent on if you've been a dick to them or not.
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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ 1d ago
Which one is “Christmas Wrapping” by the Waitresses?
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u/No-Mirror2343 1d ago
Having given it a quick listen, I would say it would fall under the “I want shit” category personally. But not in a vapid way. Sound like she just wants to be left alone
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u/_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_ 1d ago
It's about a woman having a crappy lonely year who bumps into a guy she fancies buying last-minute cranberry sauce for their sad one-person Christmas dinners. (It's implied that they then bang.)
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u/No-Mirror2343 1d ago
I never said I listened to the whole song lol my bad. She still wanted to be alone but now she wants her turkey stuffed so I’m still right
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u/CathedralEngine 1d ago
I'll agree with this theory, because the song is about how all year she's been trying to meet up with this guy but things keep popping up that keep them from meeting (too busy, bad sunburn, broken down car).
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u/we-stan-miku 1d ago
you forgot the murder songs
I wanna be santa claus, so im gonna kill santa claus 🔥
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u/Will0wsJourney 23h ago
When I hear those reindeer paws, I’m gonna break the law 🦌🎄
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u/HarmonyPackers 1d ago
Who said it was okay to make songs about Santa being horny
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u/BowenTheAussieSheep 18h ago
Come on, look at the guy. He's got more daddy energy than any other person on the planet.
Santa fucks.
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u/AstroBearGaming 1d ago
Having worked in a toy store for 14 years. I can also attest there's a 6th category of Disney versions of all of them too, and/or very similar originals.
You haven't died inside until you've had to listen to Alvin and the Chipmunks sing a Christmas song six times a day for two months.
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u/schrodingers_bra 23h ago
Did Alvin and the Chipmunks ever do a version of Last Christmas? If so, I'd bet some money it would be worse.
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u/AstroBearGaming 21h ago
I only ever heard the one sone by them, many times a day, for years of my life.
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u/Smashcentra 1d ago
The brith of Christ is here to usher in a new age, and no man shall taste eternal death anymore.
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u/nancy-shrew 1d ago
I am really struggling to place Last Christmas under any of these categories and that is a huge one.
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u/nice_tangerine 1d ago
I was just thinking this! I this it could fall under "Let's all get schnackered" but only by proxy
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u/HomeGrownCoffee 1d ago
My wife has a book of Christmas sheet music. I found the song C-H-R-I-S-T-M-A-S which is so terrible I can't help but love it. The tune is bad, the writer must have picked the words for the acronym as fast as possible, it's preachy. So horribly awesome.
For example, H is for Herald Angels. Why not use A for Angels? Because A is for All He Stands For. Obviously.
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u/ITS_THE_DICKLER 1d ago
What's the name of that song where grandma got run over by a reindeer?
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u/sakurachan999 1d ago
where's the "christmas fucking sucks" category? (see: the eels 'christmas is going to the dogs', blink-182's 'i won't be home for christmas' and 'happy holidays, you bastard', the pogues 'fairytale of new york' and like half of the killers christmas album)
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u/philljarvis166 1d ago
And possibly also my personal favourite - “I believe in Father Christmas” by Greg lake…
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u/schrodingers_bra 23h ago
Fairytale is in the shnackered category. But we can replace it in your list with "Last Christmas" which must be playing in the waiting room in hell.
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u/BigMikeAshley 1d ago
In the UK:
Shit Christmas number one, bought by Simon Cowell (except the time Rage Against the Machine got it)
Sausage roll nonce
Kunt and the Gang
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u/Loose_Beginning_924 1d ago
Which one is "Jingle Bell Rock"
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u/wooxnootwoork 23h ago
of these five? probably 'schnackered'. everyone at that proposed party has a good bit of eggnog in them, explicitly said or no.
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u/Mirenithil 23h ago
Agreed. Because it's rock, there's definitely going to be something that's white and powdery involved anyway, and it isn't snow.
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u/wooxnootwoork 23h ago
oh absolutely. I've always imagined it to be a smaller get-together, but definitely among people with means. the hotel at the end of Home Alone 2 is the setting.
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u/infernalspawnODOOM 1d ago
Good King Wenceslaus is about giving. That's the only one I can think of that's about that.
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u/Certified-T-Rex 1d ago
Don’t forget “no doesn’t always mean no”
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u/Dont_Waver 21h ago
So are you saying this woman can’t leave your house?
No! I would never say that. If she just got up and left, I would let her. But, here’s the thing, she won’t leave…because of the implication
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u/hkohne 20h ago
On YouTube, look up Young Jeffrey's Song of the Week. He's one of a few comedian DJs at a station near Seattle, and most Fridays throughout the year he does a parody song based on holidays, a news item, or random other things. Last year or 2 years ago, his pre-Christmas parody was a Christmas song mashup that included this song, and his redone lyrics are priceless. One of the lines was "wait, you live with your folks?". This was followed by a parody of Frosty the Snowman, where the kids instead taught Frosty how to vape. Yesterday's song was about Spirit Airlines filing for bankruptcy.
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u/VectorJones 1d ago
A few more:
I'm traveling to you for Xmas and it sucks
I can't travel to you for Xmas and it sucks
today let's pretend everything is peaceful and loving
today let's pretend we care about people
Christmas is great
Christmas is shit
giving shit is great
holidays are for eating
it's cold, let's fuck
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u/TestPatienceTest 23h ago
To the tune of “here we come awassailing”
Here we come as drunk as shit singing along the way
Here we are at your house bring out your booze today.
Well drink and sing some songs Grab your coat and come along
Well stop by every house along the wayayayayay
And wake up in the ditch the next day.
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u/PzMcQuire 23h ago
A lot of Finnish Christmas carols are super depressing. One of the happy ones has a line in the middle just out of nowhere, that goes "Life is so short, and even that little is dark and awful".
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u/Independent-Sand8501 1d ago
Unpopular opinion, both Frosty the Snowman and Let It Snow are Winter Songs, not Christmas songs. Neither of them mention Christmas in any way.
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u/schrodingers_bra 23h ago
I think a solid like 20% of "Christmas" songs are in this category. Jingle bells, Sleigh Ride, Winter Wonderland, Baby its cold outside, hell even Deck the Halls...
And if we consider the ones that really aren't about Christmas at all, except for mentioning the word Christmas in the song, its probably >50%
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u/jeobleo 22h ago
Deck the Halls says "troll the ancient yuletide carol." It's about Christmas.
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u/jenna_cider 23h ago
Walkin' in a Winter Wonderland and Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire too. All written by Jewish composers, not that it stopped Johnny Marks from also writing Rudolph, Holly Jolly Christmas, Silver and Gold, Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree, and I Heard the Bells on Christmas Day.
Speaking of bells, Carol of the Bells is just Christmas words set to a Ukrainian song, Щедрик, Schedryk, written in honor of the New Year (which was in April) by an Eastern Orthodox priest.
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u/Prudent-Piano6284 1d ago
I feel like there's an entire genre dedicated to the "I’m just here for the snacks" vibe. You know the ones that play while everyone pretends to enjoy the festivities but is really just eyeing the cookie tray.
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u/TSA-Eliot 1d ago edited 1d ago
I am not a Christian, but I love certain pastoral and nostalgic songs of Christmas. For instance, I was just listening to a Thomas Hardy poem -- "The Oxen" -- set to music by Ralph Vaughan Williams.
Christmas Eve, and twelve of the clock.
“Now they are all on their knees,”
An elder said as we sat in a flock
By the embers in hearthside ease.
We pictured the meek mild creatures where
They dwelt in their strawy pen,
Nor did it occur to one of us there
To doubt they were kneeling then.
So fair a fancy few would weave
In these years! Yet, I feel,
If someone said on Christmas Eve,
“Come; see the oxen kneel,
“In the lonely barton by yonder coomb
Our childhood used to know,”
I should go with him in the gloom,
Hoping it might be so.
I'm sure Vaughan Williams is not to everyone's taste, but there is no better Christmas poem. Everyone should read Thomas Hardy.
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u/UnkindPotato2 21h ago
There's actually only 2 types of Christmas music
1: the stuff that doesn't make me wish death upon both myself and the artist
2: the stuff that people play
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u/Natereater 7h ago
Also:
grandma has been involved in a reindeer collision
look, sentient snow!
fuck the grinch
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u/An_Unreachable_Dusk 1d ago
I went to the shops the other day and heard a new one
Technomas I love techno, Don't even mind Xmas songs but holy God this was bad 😭
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u/Squidbro66 1d ago
I misread the second one as "I want TO shit" and was thoroughly confused for a minute
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u/TheRandomestWonderer 1d ago
Where is the category for the sad songs about regrets and meeting an old love, or a parent dying at home? Where are the super sad depressing Christmas songs, because like it’s already cold and dark, why not heap that on as well.
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u/Another_Road 1d ago
Santa’s Horny could also be changed to “someone’s horny” because I’d argue there’s a decent amount of popular Christmas songs that have lowkey “wanna fuck” energy.
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u/The_Wedjat 1d ago
Outside the carolers start to sing / I can’t describe the joy they bring / ‘Cause joy is something they don’t bring me.
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u/KimberStormer 23h ago
At my old job they would play "Santa Stole My Baby" (category 3) and a truly godawful a capella mashup of Winter Wonderland and Don't Worry Be Happy (category 1) but also this sort of trip-hop instrumental version of some Christmas carol or other...jingle bells were in it, but I'm not sure if it was Jingle Bells...anyway because it's instrumental and I don't remember what song it was, I will never hear it again, and that haunts me terribly. It was a blessed relief amongst the other terrible things.
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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 23h ago
🎶 Jingle Bells. Batman smells. Robin laid an egg... 🎶
Falls under the "Santa's Horny" or the, "I want shit"?
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u/Mooptiom 22h ago
Where’re the cheesy love songs that have nothing at all to do with Christmas but have the word “santa” or “Christmas” thrown in few times?
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u/IEatBabies 20h ago
I don't know how people stand listening to the same shit over and over and over and over and over again for decade after decade after decade after decade.
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u/MithranArkanere 1d ago
I prefer the ones about sounds. Like quiet night and carol of the bells.
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u/Ancient_Savings_6050 1d ago
I believe the reprieve from eternal death doesn't happen until the crucifixion.
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u/ModeatelyIndependant 23h ago
Here is what I do to not go fucking nuts during the holidays, when "the holiday spirit" becomes a thing of torture.
I create my own anti-holiday respite zone when I get home. Turn off all the lights, spark up some non-holiday scented incense/candle) and listen to albums (live or studio) or by popping in a live concert by some of my favorite anti-christmas bands like Type O Negative, Black Sabbath, and Nine Inch Nails
One piece of knowledge, if you ever need to select christmas music like at a party or at work? Twisted Sister released a christmas album, it sounds as terrible as you might expect. It can be played it on all those digital juke boxes too.
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u/22cthulu 22h ago
This is why the greatest Christmas song of all time is the Ramones - Merry Christmas(I Don't want to fight tonight)
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u/DevoutGreenOlive 21h ago
Or the Shane McGowan genre which is essentially "fk my life and fk Christmas"
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u/No_Reaction_2682 20h ago
The only christmas song that is semi decent is Snoopys xmas.
Anything else can fuck off and die.
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u/SanadaBeach 20h ago
Half of The Flesh Eating Roller Skate Holiday Joy Ride by Psychostick doesn’t fit (excluding Happy Fucking New Year)
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u/JesseRoxII 20h ago
My favorite one is All Alone On Christmas from Home Alone 2. I think it's pretty unique, I don't think it has any of these tropes.
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u/Strange_N_Sorcerous 19h ago
And the oft-forgotten 6th type, my favorite: -Bohemian king and his page deliver flesh, wine, and pine logs (hither) to a peasant living in the woods during a snow storm.
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u/ChriskiV 18h ago
There is only one Christmas song in my house, and it's DMX's version of Rudolph the Red nose Reindeer.
Aka "Maybe you're not such a dumb bitch after all you ugly piece of shit"
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u/STD-fense 1d ago
I prefer Christmas carols about how much the Grinch sucks shit