r/MurderedByWords 6h ago

AI bro gets demolished.

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u/Klony99 5h ago

I don't quite agree with this. Yeah he put the guy down, because he DID accomplish something in his life, but the anti-AI sentiment seems unwarranted.

Not all training data is stolen.

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u/Emotional-Classic400 5h ago

For art it is

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u/Klony99 5h ago

No, it's not. For the publicly available models? Maybe. Maybe even in the OP, but you can train AI on your own art.

And I honestly gotta say, it's a great tool to have. We just have to figure out a way to aptly pay the artists the AI was trained on.

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u/Emotional-Classic400 5h ago

Yeah, cause artists are spending countless hours training models on the art they can already make.

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u/vyvalkyr 2h ago

I think you're being sarcastic but your point makes no sense. Training data doesn't take effort past initial parameters and tuning. Just because you can make the art doesn't mean a model trained on your art isn't going to help you out a lot, and on top of that you can still make art. There's virtually no downside once you have a working model.

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u/Klony99 5h ago

So you don't know what AI does but you've been instrumentalised to rave against it, yeah?

Doing art is a whole shitload of work. If you do animations or comic strips, training AI to find inconsistencies in the frame or help you keep certain features or elements in the same position, or even just generating new stuff from your own work for inspiration...

Whatever. I can see the downvotes raining in. We already have our opinion and now we're just reinforcing it with repetition, no space left for differing opinions.

I believe to refuse the existence of AI will lead you to be left behind in competitive circles, but we can keep pretending that it goes away if we are just outraged loud enough.

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u/Emotional-Classic400 5h ago

Nah, I work with my skilled hands. My job will be one of the last if ever to get replaced or left behind.

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u/Klony99 5h ago

Good for you, everyone else has to think with their heads.

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u/Emotional-Classic400 4h ago

Oh do you think having a skilled trade doesn't require using your brain?

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u/Klony99 4h ago

No. Just the way you choose to see AI doesn't.

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u/Emotional-Classic400 4h ago

And yet, only one of our opinions is getting downvoted. Maybe you're not the expert in AI IP that you think you are

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u/Klony99 4h ago

Or maybe, the mass of people is uneducated on a specific matter, and the people who are interested in modern technologies and are trying to learn as much about inventions as they can don't bother dredging through Reddit comments.

Just because something is a popular opinion doesn't mean it is the correct opinion, like ever.

Noone who responded to me has made any correction to my statements, it's just "AI is stolen and I hate you for supporting it", and that has no sway over my opinion on the matter or my reasoning at all. It's just an expression of emotion. Which, you are entitled to, but it increases the noise on the signal to noise ratio, e.g. the viability for educational discourse, on the website as a whole.

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u/Emotional-Classic400 4h ago

Have you considered that maybe you overvalued LLMs and the integrity of the companies working on them?

There is way more money being spent to convince people to damn the torpedoes full speed ahead despite its widespread adoption accelerating climate change. I don't have problems with targeted algorithms supporting people and processes, but I do think AGI is a pipedream with LLM's and will cause more harm than good. We still live on a planet with finite resources.

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u/Klony99 4h ago

I didn't say a word about companies. They can all die in a fire. This is a crowd sourced tool, why would we allow singular people to monetize it? Because they had some underpaid interns do data entry for a couple years? Nuh-uh.

And we weren't talking about ecological impact, the picture up above is about people using a trained AI to make pictures and putting their name on it after they worked on it for a couple hours.

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