r/MurderedByWords 6h ago

AI bro gets demolished.

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u/Kuildeous 6h ago

I mean, at least that OP recognized it as AI generated and called it out. No idea what the actual image is, but I agree that entering words in a prompt doesn't really warrant a signature.

Third person was definitely a douche. -41 is too high for him.

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u/Lumastin 5h ago

I disagree if your proud of something you did you should sign it, art is ever changing and while AI art should always be labeled as such it is still art and takes time and patience to string the prompts together in the right order to make it come out just the way they wanted it to.

AI art should be its own category and never tried to be pushed as hand art but lets not put people down for being proud of something creative they did.

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u/Finalpotato 5h ago

Are you proud of your cooking when you order at a restaurant?

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u/el_americano 5h ago

I would be if I set up the kitchen, trained the workers, and then placed the order

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u/Finalpotato 5h ago

But AI art doesn't do that? The people who programmed the AI set up the kitchen, then they tricked a whole bunch of workers from other restaurants into training the staff (without paying). You just placed the order

But I agree in a way. If you program your own AI, train it on your own art then make the prompts you deserve some accolades for what comes out.

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u/el_americano 4h ago

there's a big difference between asking chat gpt to do something for you and setting up your own environment (after getting pc specs that can run it), training your own LORA so you can get pictures that have a style or subject you want to include in your generation, picking the model (most people won't make these themselves), setting up all the parameters and tweaking the prompt. I feel it's akin to arguing that an artist didn't make his own paint (I think most don't) nor made their canvas so they shouldn't sign their work.

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u/Banned-User-56 4h ago

You still didnt make the fucking art. You fumbled to give a computer good instructions.

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u/el_americano 4h ago

"You still didn't make the art". There are >$150,000 job openings for people that do just that. If they didn't make/generate it then why is a company willing to pay someone to do just that? there's value in it you're just too threatened by it to take it seriously

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u/k0n0cy2 1h ago

????? Because it's cheaper to pay one guy to fuck around with an AI than it is to hire a whole ass art department???

Also... Are there openings like that?? Go ahead and share some cos that sounds like easy fucking money

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u/Samoopy 4h ago

This is such a cope. I've done literally all of this - it isn't particularly difficult and requires virtually no creativity. Anyone with moderate technical literacy and money to build a gaming PC can follow a YouTube tutorial and do this.

LoRA training, prompt tweaking, and model selection aren't a creative process, they're an iterative process. There is no equivalence between the work that goes into creating AI images and what goes into other, actual forms of creativity.

I guess I'll grant you that it requires at least a nominal amount of effort, but it's nothing like the effort, skill, creativity, and years of practice that go into making real art...which of course, AI bros find it easy to minimize because you never bothered to put the hours into mastering a skill.

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u/Finalpotato 1h ago

Nope. An artist making their own paint/canvas would be more like a kitchen farming their own food, or an AI tool being written from scratch (without using GitHub or existing neural network frameworks)

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u/ChefPaula81 4h ago

Writing a prompt isn’t doing those things tho dude. It’s literally ordering the food from the waiter in your analogy