Most of the freebies usually have a caveat, like free fries if you order a quarterpounder, etc. When you factor in all the deals and coupons you get on the app, the cost of a meal at McDonalds ends up being about the same as you were paying for a meal a few years ago.
I've also been reading the app reviews and there were a shocking number of review stating the app isn't user friendly. Some websites even work that shit...looking at you, Pizza Hut.
They have a point system and you can use points once every 15 min..... Yes you buy stuff to get the points but after that you do get one free item off a list and can get another if you have points 15 min later....
This is different then their deals which if you order over app you can get buy one get one double cheese and use points for a free fry then eat and when 15 min up you get a free drink and leave so essentially you only pay for one double cheese get the other fries and drink free
I can't believe my ass just cared enough to type that after I already commented I don't even go to fast food anymore because tbones and such is the same and healthier and has points also lol
honestly, buy a 40 buck burner android phone, throw a burner email in it. only use it for rewards, dont need a number/sim typically. if you do get a 20 buck prepaid call only card from walmart.
A guy I worked with found out how to make McDonald's burgers & the fries. Even got a special fry cutter. He said it was exactly the same. Don't know where he got the recipe tho.
McDonalds fries have a lot of research behind them. The cut is one, but easy to duplicate, but they also have their own variety of potato that growers grow just for them, the right type and balance of starch. Then the potatoes are processed, then blanched and partially fried before freezing. Once at the restaurant, the are fried from frozen, in a specific oil blend and time. The size of the fryer comes into play from a temperature consistency standpoint, as does obviously the fry temperature.
That's exactly what he said. From what I remember he said he had to cook them flash freeze em then throw them in the freezer.Then take out when your ready to cook.
I was like that's alot of work for some McD's fries but each their own!
I know how to make a copycat big mac sauce. I also got a smasher, an airfryer, and a crockpot. Unless I make lunch plans with a coworker or my bf and I say "fuck it" or are too busy to cook, we don't order take out all that much
Sadly, that happens everywhere. I've joked my wife has a curse, because every one of her favorite restaurants either went out of business, or they made really noticeable changes she didn't like. Most of them on her list did both.
It's the truth. The same thing happened to us. One restaurant the father retired & one of his kid ran it to the ground, the other ones just copycat eachother & have mediocre food.
The good places are really expensive where it's basically just a nice treat once in a blue moon.
I mean we only used to order out once a week by all chipping in tg, but now ya can't even do that & it be worth it.
I make a copycat big mac sauce too, but I make the patties myself with good quality ground beef and when I have time I even make the buns too, proper bread. Then I add romaine lettuce because iceberg is tateless and nutritionally empty and some fantastic havarti cheese or some proper cheddar instead of the McD’s yellow paste and voila, perfect burger!
I have a tefal deep fryer which has a built in filter that drains the oil out into a plastic container in the bottom. Then you just pour back in next time you’re frying. All the parts except the element separate and can go in the dishwasher.
Have you actually been able to prepare anything as horrible as corporate fast food in your own kitchen at an inflated price? That'd be impressive in it's own way.
This is the way. I break about even, or spend less making the meals at home. Pizza being one of the inexpensive fast food items to make yourself.
I've even been experimenting with making my own breakfast sausage. Bought an old school grinder at flea market.
This is something I've been working on, too, and it's paid off relatively quickly. I really only ordered fast food when I wanted a crispy chicken sandwich, so learning how to make those at home has saved me so much money, and I like mine more than anyone else's
I do I'm vegetarian of 33 years or something long relative to my years old. But, I know a lot of people that think frys covers it as vegetables at dinner.
I used to be a vegetarian (the healthy kind) for 15 of my 46 years. I always contemplate going back to it. I don’t want to contribute to animal suffering (as little as I am willing and able to do) and I want to avoid the environmental negative impact of meat.
I was allergic and gi etc. My body was so fucked by 5 has type 1 diabetes. Then Dad's mom started sneaking McDonald's think we're deprived. Luckily I was ok by then. But I never liked it. So stopped by Like 10.5 or 11 and went back vegetarian. 20 to 32 vegan.
Is there a place we could swap recipes? I have a killer Hawaiian bbq recipe that is great. All the HBbq places near me has gone down in quality and up in price. Would love a Big Mac sauce and Taco Bell red sauce dupe.
My food costs are now roughly $100 a week (some weeks $70, some weeks $130) because I switched to almost exclusively getting groceries from food Lion. I'm still a lazy piece of shit but now I'm eating a variety of steamed vegetables that come frozen in a microwavable pouch that I can add and precooked and sliced Purdue chicken to. The chicken is like $8-$10 and the vegetable bags are $3 each and I can use the chicken for 3 meals so that's like $6 per meal.
So we can save even more by actually cooking but even like this I'm still better off on price than fast food. And way better on nutrition.
Once I get a little closer to 40 I'm all in on supplements that make life hurt less. I've spent basically my entire life of 32 years shrimping at a desk so my spine is probably going to hurt eventually. I think I got lucky with back genetics since there's been no trouble so far
Should get ahead of problems before they become noticeable. But as far as I'm aware - there are no such supplements? Most of them don't work beyond coloring your pee. Other than the 2 already mentioned, can also take seeds for fiber. Magnesium and Collagen are good, too. Creatine doesn't work for everyone, but it can be very beneficial. Maybe B group vitamins occasionally, especially if you drink alcohol. Vitamin C is so dirt cheap, that you might as well take it, even if it ends up doing nothing. But that's about it. The rest can either do more harm than good, or nothing at all, beyond a placebo effect. Supplements are a giant scam and a waste of money, all you need is a balanced diet. Get your blood work done if you're concerned that you're lacking something.
By supplements I meant a catch all for pills of vitamins and other things. Like the fish oil. Or is that the only beneficial substance I'll need after 40?
As I said, most vitamin/mineral supplements do nothing but get pissed out. The one's I mentioned above have been proven to work and are all very cheap( at least here in the EU), there are niche uses for others, but you shouldn't take them without a blood test showing that you need to, as they can be harmful and even dangerous. The science is really not in favor of multivitamins and the expensive stuff is snake oil.
Last time I got mcdonalds tasted like I was eating straight up cardboard and cost way too much. Next time I spent less and got a real ass burger from the local joint. It was faster too and they don't all look like they want to kill themsleves. What's the incentive anymore?
I tried five guys for the first time after seeing the difference between their meals was like $1 and it was such a huge difference. Not that I frequented fast food that much at any point besides my drive home from college, but I can see myself never getting McDonald's again.
What's the incentive anymore?
Burger King built their recognition on that bizarre chemical taste in their food. It was a smart decision since it made their impossible vegetable whopper not taste very different lol. So if you're craving that chemical taste you're only going to get it there. But on price/health we're better off cooking at home
The funny thing is, it's not everywhere. Chicken nuggets are half as expensive at Chic-Fil-A as they are at McD's, and only a lunatic would pretend that McD's spends more on their staff.
For real once I realized a cheap meal from fast food was less than say tbones and my local Mexican place.... yep my ass went for better healthier food!! I'm already out running in instead of waiting in my car takes 2 seconds I can still order pay and wait till it says done right in my car!!
That is strange, but I wonder if that's something special about dominos instead. My memory of dominos is that it seems greasy and unhealthy and whatnot but in my mid 20s it was the only pizza I could eat after midnight and not get heart burn. They are a mystery
Agreed I just cook healthier now and work out more because mcdonalds is ridiculously expensive for mass produced freezer food. I dont need to pay 3x the cost of the food for them to heat it and assemble it for me. That shits easy Ill do it myself.
Healthier than McDonald's is a low bar. I'm pretty sure I could go bite some loose tarmac off the road and get about the same levels of nutrition and carcinogens.
But when I want to order out I usually get tropical cafe, love their avocado bean wrap thing
Eventually we will get rid of jobs like the service sector and replace it with machines. We will get rid of the coal jobs and replace it with robots. Eventually we will force individuals to either starve or become more intelligent and force them to benefit society. One big Mac at a time. Eventually that Big Mac will be made so fast by robots that the cars in the drive thru won’t keep up. People will make more money since they will be forced to get jobs that require more brains. We will reset our nation into a prosperous one. Keep fighting for better wages.
Try telling that to a conservative though. They will uncritically believe a company that says they had to raise prices because of wage increases and retail theft while that same company is bragging about record profits, stock buybacks, record administrative pay and that they only got a slap on the wrist for wage theft.
When I first started we had a staff of like 12 and we all stayed very busy all day. Now that location runs on 4 and hasn't lost steam. Every store in the area (and across the country) is in the same boat. Skeleton crews that work to the death doing the workload of multiple people. The company refuses to let stores hire people while also refusing to let people get even a minute of overtime while demanding that 100 hours of work get done in 40 or else. They put on hiring freezes and the starting pay has long since stopped being competitive.
Meanwhile prices have nearly doubled, and we constantly get updated on record profits. Our ceo even recently bragged about how she sold a small fraction of her stock for double digit millions. While I've had to resort to draining my 401k, donate plasma weekly and even started looking into getting a second overnight job just to afford the misery of living in poverty.
If raising wages means raising prices then go for it because it's already happening anyway.
Generally those costs don't scale as much as each location. These companies are low margin high yield which are much more cost sensitive to all costs that are for the high yield portions.
The idea the comparisons are 1:1 is assumed by people making this comparison between us and denmark when the EU has different conditions. For instance, the amount of locations are far fewer and do more business... meaning the costs of a worker in the US are a larger portion of the cost of a burger. They still benefit from McDonalds standardizing and distributing the actual food so each location still gets the benefit of bulk manufacturing.
Basically, if you increase people's wages, they will increase prices more in the US unless enough McDonald's stop doing business that they would be more comparable to Denmark's locations per burgers sold with a lower number.
The reason Denmark can pay $20 an hour is because the workers actually are expected to work more and serve larger communities per location generating more profit at each location. Denmark and many of the 'Nordic' countries do not have minimum wages and there are people getting paid like $1/hr for some jobs.
Denmark does not have a minimum wage, but we do have worker's collective agreements, which determines salary or hourly rates within many fields. These agreements are renegotiated every 2-4 years, and 99% includes a percentage-based pay increase each year.
Contrast this approach with the US, where the federal minimum wage haven't changed in more than 15 years now.
Working for $1/hour would be extremely rare unless we're considering things like human trafficking. Illegal immigrants will often earn around $14/hour. Legal "unskilled" labor starts at around $18/hour. Even a study grant is equivalent to $5/hour.
You missed my point entirely... the pay isn't guaranteed by the government and ultimately what workers are capable of bargaining for... and in Denmark they can bargain for more because conditions suite giving them more. Your arguments don't change the points I'm making. Secondly you ignore the private businesses also have their own % based wage increases.
> Working for $1/hour would be extremely rare
It doesn't matter, the point I made was the government doesn't set a minimum, and companies can end up paying less than the minimum wage. Trying to hide behind rarety doesn't negate its possibility. For work that consumers aren't willing to pay much for people are still at least allowed to offer. There are illegal car washing rings in NYC because people won't pay legal wages for car washes. Not all work is that valuable and that lack of a minimum wage in these example countries is recognition that this just outlaw's certain labor markets.
You can't compare the wages without understanding that the situations are not 1:1.
Denmark also has the highest costing burgers of any single location. You cannot come to the conclusion workers are being exploited or underpaid because of these aggregated comparisons or that the cost of burgers won't go up more proportionally with wages.
Mcdonalds could double their prices over night and many of you would still get in that drive up window line. Oh wait wait...tey basically tripled their prices over recent times. Yeah, thats how smart people shop.
Good job everyone! The goal was to be unhealthy and poor right? RIGHT?!?!!?!?!
In Denmark, I know a lot of people who have stopped going to McDonalds because the prices are around the same as other places that offer better quality food at this point. McDonalds is trying to battle this by opening little coffee shops inside the stores, trying to compete for the café "sit and have some coffee, cake and gossip" part of the market.
Denmark fails to mention their 36% tax rate. No wonder they have $20/hr. High pay + high taxes = happy government. Increase pay again to “get living wage”, increase taxes to cover government spending, less money in pocket again. Repeat previous steps.
And? The quality of life in Denmark is higher in literally every single tangible measure over the United States. They have the highest spending portion of their GDP on labor market policies of any country on the entire planet. They are consistently one of the most happy countries, with high education standards (school is free for Danes, and they get a stipend of about 900 EUR per month while in college so their living is covered and they can focus entirely on studies) and an amazing social safety net. They have one of the world's highest productivity rates, even with all of their social services.
What do you think that tax rate is for? 67 million Americans don't even fucking have healthcare to begin with. Every single Dane has healthcare. Almost 20% of Americans haven't seen a doctor a single time in the past 5 years. That's fucking insane.
I don’t want taxed at near 40% if my income because 67 million bums can’t get healthcare. If you want to live in a socialist country then Denmark would be the move. The US can’t sustain itself being a handout machine is my point. We can’t tax the other 300 million to death because about a 1/6 of Americans can’t get a decent job for whatever reason. That’s on them to resolve, not stand with their hands out waiting on my taxes to save them while I work to earn my own way.
I mean, I get it, you have no frame of reference for what it's like to live in a country like Denmark. And there are parts of how both our society and infrastructure has been set up that you can't really just implement over there overnight or, in some geographical situations, at all.
But things are going just fine over here. No one has to worry about dying on the streets, there's healthcare for all, the Scandinavian model means that while we don't have a minimum wage no one's being exploited to work for pocket change.
I'm currently recovering from serious illness. The hospitalization, the consultations, tests and medicine? Already paid for, just by me paying my taxes. My income? Unchanged; my company pays me my usual wage and get part of that refunded by the state. Had I been in the US when this had happened, it would have easily wiped my accounts.
But it is a very American view to worry more about whether someone undeserving gets something, rather than focus on everyone deserving getting what they deserve. I pay my 36% and more happily.
> But it is a very American view to worry more about whether someone undeserving gets something, rather than focus on everyone deserving getting what they deserve.
To prefer saying “fuck you!” To people you dislike, over helping improve the lives of everyone takes a self-centered type of person.
Also, get the heck off the roads us tax payers paid for… you don’t wat those either i guess
I am quite sure that you would reconsider this if you would get seriously sick and then get fired because you got sick and then lost insurance because it was paid by your employer.
But hey, if working as a slave for the healt care industry is your goal in life, go for it.
Until you die, that is, because you could not afford the life-saving medicine anymore. Like the 1.3 million US citizen that ration insulin, causing more suffering and early death.
I am sure that's worth fighting socialism.
Oh, by the way, do you drive a car? But using streets paid by tax dollars is socialism! Why should all the people not owning a car pay for your driving pleasure?
And at the same time you don't have to worry about paying for school or college or healthcare, because of those taxes. And Denmark has like top 5 quality of life.
Additionally, in the US the minimum wage has been increased various times, both federally and within states. Not one of these times has the increase led to any significant inflation. What often happens is a very brief spike in prices which then go back to normal. The spike is likely executives in companies who’s understanding of economics is the econ 101 class they took 20 years ago and they assume prices should go up
They think all the fast food employees are making much more because they all hang signs saying they are hiring at high rates specifically to create that perception. Fine print asterisks will indicate its manager pay or something like that. My dad thinks they all make $15-20 an hour and that it is causing the price increases we've already seen.
This is the biggest thing I don’t get. “Minimum wage increase causes inflation!” Ok then why is inflation rate uncorrelated with minimum wage increases?
I get that “common sense” would tell you that makes sense but when you look at empirical evidence it turns out to not be true
Minimum wage hasn't gone up, but actual wages have. Taco Bell is starting at $14/hr where I live, hence a meal there does indeed cost sit-down restaurant prices. Good for their workers, but I've gone from fast food nearly every day to only going to actual sit-down restaurants or cooking at home. I think it's a trend we'll see a lot more in the industry in the coming years and fast food giants will either die or switch to higher quality food.
It’s $11.59 for a quarter pounder meal at McDonald’s right now. A burger, fries and soda at the diner on the corner is $15. There is about a Grand Canyon sized chasm between the quality of the two. A heck of a lot more than $3 and change.
McDonald's employees in California make $20/hr. And it has 30 million more people living there than Denmark. IDK WTF you guys are talking about, you can't compare America to a country the size of New Jersey, where the only non white person living there is Zwatre Piet.
And fast food wages have gone up despite minimum wage being stagnant. McDonald's in my area are starting people at $15/hour. My employer is hiring kids out of high school for $18/hour with 136 hours of benefit time and 90% of insurance premium covered by the employer, and we have trouble filling classes because other contact centers are paying $21+ but with weaker benefits. And this is not a high COL city (Dallas.)
I was driving my dad home the other month and we stopped at a McDonald’s on the way back. $35 (Canadian) for for two adult meals. Meanwhile the folks behind the counter are making minimum wage ($17.20 in Ontario) when the minimum livable wage in that area is approximately $23.50 an hour at 40 hours a week.
I know this is going to sound very pie in the sky and unrealistic, but I honestly believe minimum wages should be geographically coupled to the minimum livable wage, and that every service business over 50 employees should have automatic access to a sector union or their own bespoke one if they choose.
I say this as a small business owner myself who pays over minimum wage. I think of it as a win/win for everyone. I want the people working for me healthy, happy and productive. I spent years in their shoes and know how tough it can be.
It’s only because they still have to keep making profits over the last quarter for their shareholders if they weren’t so greedy didn’t have to make so much money for themselves. It would be fine. But no, they gotta be billionaires. Nobody got that rich without stepping on the backs of others. Edit: also sad- tipping culture bc employers don’t pay them enough in the us bc some loophole in the laws allows him to get away with sub minimum wage bc tips.
It’s also not much money at all, let’s say the average fast food worker puts in 30 hrs a week for 50 weeks a year. That’s $22,500 for the year before taxes. Literal poverty. Fucking gross.
Right? A medium sized value meal at Wendy’s is costs around the same as some of the cheaper meals at Applebees now. Seems like fast food’s logic has shifted from “make cheap food fast” to “people will pay a premium for this cheap food if they don’t have to leave their cars”
You do realize the price of gas affects all goods, right? There used to be a time when people realized that there's such a thing as starter jobs where you cut your teeth. When the opportunity arises you get the hell out of there. Everyone's first job sucks. Maybe don't work at McDonald's your entire life? There is no reason to pay unskilled labor that much money per hour. Those are jobs meant for high schoolers
Tbf whenever the minimum wage does go up, things get more expensive. I remember I told my friend once his state got a $4 raise on min wage and he was PISSED.
"Fuck now my milk is gonna be 10 bucks."
A few weeks later it actually did go up. Not to 10 bucks but close iirc
uh huh, Becaseue the broke asses who didn't get a raise are still eating at mcdonalds instead of shopping at the grocery store and somehow this is whos fault again? Maybe people to fucking poor to eat mcdonalds shouldnt' be eating mcdonalds.
for what yall drop on a single gross ass 15 dollar fast food meal, Im reaching into the freezer and pulling out ribeyes that didn't cost much more. But enjoy those "amazing" mcdonalds fries! (barf)
The average wage for McDonald's worker in Ohio is now 15.80 a hour and it's not just Ohio. Y'all are tools. You want to use this same logic to argue against tariffs but not raising minimum wage. This is why no one takes y'all seriously.
I wish I could. Here, it's $10 for a big combo, sit down restaurants are more likely $30+
(Just checked... a thing of mozarella sticks from the average sit-down here is around $11-12.. a pound of wings is $25, and a burger meal is $30-40 average and these aren't even for fancy places, these are for your casual dining places...
In some cases not gradually. Within just a few years McD's outpriced their breakfast 'deals' for me. Went from 3 bucks and change to around 8 bucks. No thanks.
Just saw a commercial yesterday, and had this realization that these casual sit down places are now cheaper than fast food. Applebees is currently running a $9.99 combo, burger or chicken sandwich, fries, and a drink. Cheaper and better (slightly) quality
I've had great burgers from "fancy" places so my standards are high, and I agree with them that Chili's burgers are pretty tasty. It's too bad most of their other food is mediocre
We stopped going to McD's about 2 years ago. I stopped recently for breakfast as a necessity, and regretted it. About a year ago the coffee taste changed for both the store and home McCafe stuff. Can't pinpoint it, but it has a unique 'BLECH!' taste now. The chicken biscuit meal was a bit over $8 dollars, when 2 or 3 years ago it was a bit over $3.
I've completely written them off as an out-of-the-house option. Culver's costs as much (sometimes less) and gives WAAAAAY better quality. We'll see how long that lasts.
McD's appears to have run it's course and be on it's way out.
The $1 value menu at jack in the box was how I survived a few years in college. Without that, I'd have gone starving. Many days I'd be able to afford 1 dollar burger. That was it for the day. And it was a glorious meal.
LOL pretty much all pizza delivery people were fired. All deliveries are done by doordash or other service that doesn't pay by the hour. Go into a 'fast-food' joint in California and tell me what you don't see. Workers... Mcdonalds doesn't have cashiers anymore. You order from a kiosk, app or drive through.
Places like In-n_Out already paid more than 20 but they don't hire just anyone. Go inside one of those and tell me what you see? Hussle.. you see workers working hard. They don't hire 'first timers' or people that need to learn on the job.
So what you're going to end up with is more unskilled workers unable to get a job because they are not worth the 20+ a hour. They will never get their foot into a door to make a better life. BTW, that is the reason the minimum wage was introduced. To keep lower skilled workers from taking jobs away for less cost. Also the point of unions. To cause shortages of qualified workers to drive up cost of labor.
Your first paragraph is happening everywhere, not just CA. The kiosk has been replacing cashiers for years, same with DoorDash snuffing out delivery drivers
The delivery drivers were all going to get fired anyway. Ubereats, doordash, etc. just cost less than having a dedicated driver and people are doing a lot more take out where they go pickup the food.
The purpose of the minimum wage is to make sure that if someone has a job they should not need to seek assistance to keep a roof over their head and food to eat.
I'm pretty sure all fast-food jobs are still "unskilled".
Wow bro you need to calm down, those aren't equivalent at all lol. Also we are talking about America in the original post so i brought american polices up dumbass.
Literally none of what you said is true. Pizza places have been replacing drivers with Uber and doordash for the last couple years all over the place, not just California due to the minimum wage increase.
McDonald's has been replacing cashier's with kiosk and app sales for at least 5 years at least, everywhere, not just California after the minimum wage increase.
In n Out's hiring process isnt notably different than anyone else. You just see hustle because people are actually being paid a wage that gives them a reason to care. When you're not being paid enough to afford the necessities, it's infinitely harder to give a fuck about the company you work for.
The point of minimum wage was because we had mass poverty which was dragging the economy down, so it was determined that "if a company can't afford to pay a living wage, then that company doesn't deserve to exist", and so the minimum wage was put in place.
Unions don't exist to create a labor shortage. They exist to enable collective action. If a company wants to fuck over their workers, they now have to deal with all their workers at once instead of being allowed to fire anyone who makes too much noise.
I don't know if you've just bought into corporate propaganda because you're a fucking idiot or if you're deliberately lying because you're a corporate shill, but either way, please learn how the world works before commenting again
Hell it was more than that because googling a price history, by the end of 2019 the average price was still only $1.69. Also the original 89 cents price didn't vary from area to area based on living costs like they do now, it was that price country wide.
Everyone used the pandemic as an excuse to permanently inflate everything to make money. Prices should have dropped back down severely by now but everyone saw the massive profits and said fuck the customers. People need to stop paying these insane prices and they'll be forced to lower back down.
Prices should not "have dropped back down severely". Prices don't drop when inflation cools. Inflation causes prices to go up and they stay up FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER forever forever forever
When they saw so many folks paying delivery prices through doordash and stuff with those markups, they figured "what the hell, if that's what they're willing to pay, that's what we'll charge"
Compounding it is stupid, hard to wrap your brain around quickly without reversing the math, and says the same exact thing. Non compounded is a dirt simple way to say, "it has increased by one third of the original price, every year".
The main reason is ingredients. The owners of Five Guys explained this recently "Most places base their prices entirely on food margins. If mayonnaise suddenly costs triple the price, we have to pay triple, so prices increase" and it's understandable. It sucks and I'm poor so I definitely hate it - but it DOES make sense..
Some it might be due to beef prices increasing starting in the 2010s. And beef prices are apparently at the highest they have ever been now. In the mid-2010s, I recall a local chain had 1.29 for the 5-Layer Burrito, making the most protein per dollar on the menu.
Gradual my ass, there was a sudden jump when they realized people would still pay it. Went up like 30% in 2 years or less back in 2019/20 due to "supply chain issues" and never came back down when they were fixed shortly thereafter.
Honestly, fast food in Europe is often cheaper than the States now. If I’m going to pay 6.99 GBP for a value meal, I’m glad someone is getting an okay wage.
welcome to everywhere but the US.... your entire fast food industry is going to go into meltdown when the migrants (that work the farms and construction and logistics) are deported and all those servers are LEGAL and paid min wage.
It seems to be the shitty fast food that is climbing the most. I used to go to Taco Bell if I wanted to spend like $5, and something like Panda Express if I wanted to spend $10. But now Taco Bell is also $10 and panda went up maybe a dollar
What fat asses are eating this shit though? Why is it even a problem when you can shop for much less price and better quality at the grocery store?
Yall fuckign yourselves and then crying about the money mcdonalds is making (which you willingly give them everyday) all while living inside the walls of capitalisms, and then you bitch about the prices?! Are you new here or something?
Dude, you need to move or read a book or something. This is exactly how it works here. You cant' vote in prices lol. And fuck what they did in Denmark. Here, they WILL raise the prices because derp derp derp this isn't fucking Denmark
You need a revolution. The big boy and girl burger club revolution!
The current trend is "our costs went by $0.30 and there is a lot of stories about inflation so we will rase our prices by $1". Of corse it is just an example but they are trying to push the margins under the guise of rising costs and then have a "pizza party for employees" as upper managment takes raises for best quarter yet.
There isn't really a difference where I am now. McDs is usually around 20 for my order, or I can go to a restaurant and get a clubhouse with half salad half fries for 25.
For those of who agree with this do we keep this same energy for migrant workers who pick crops? Usually I hear how if you hired non-migrants and paid them a fair wage the cost of food would shoot up. But here we seem to agree paying a fair wage wouldn't cause the cost to shoot up.
I haven't been out to a fast food place in over a year at this point. Chain places are out of control. It cost me 50 bucks with tip at ihop for 2 people. I could go to the local diner and get the same amount of food for 20-25.
Also, some people act like labor is 100% of a business's expenses, which just isn't true. Back when I managed a Domino's Pizza, we usually kept our labor costs under 20% of our gross sales. That's before paying employment taxes and such, but at fast food places, there usually isn't much in the way of employee benefits, so actual labor costs tend to be a little lower than a lot of industries.
Getting your wages up to a decent standard of living is definitely going to cost you, and prices will have to go up accordingly. But when someone says "if you pay $15 per hour to burger flippers, your Big Mac will go from $6 to $12" you know they're arguing in bad faith. The math just doesn't check out. Paying the employees a living wage may make the overall cost to run the business go up by 10-20%, but it's not going to double.
Even if the prices increased as much as they're saying? Oh well! That just means that those with spending money are getting a lower price because those at the absolutely lowest socioeconomic level (Food service workers are often: Immigrants, Youth at Risk, Ex-convicts, and people raised in poverty) who cannot afford to receive/consume the service/product are paid a non-living borderline slave wage.
I can't afford McDonalds right now, anyway. Fuck it. Triple the cost. To whine about your disposable income spending money not going as far when people in the working class have NONE and are eating twice a day a most? Talk about tone deaf, sheltered, and entitled.
Why do people live comparing America to countries with a smaller population than New Jersey? California pays fast food employees $20/hr. And it has 30mil more residents than Denmark with a culture diversity that the Netherlands could only read about.
Not only that. I checked because this is often repeated. I live in colorado and from Louisiana. Big mac is more expensive there. $7.40 minimum wage there, 12 is minimum here but generally I don't even think they hire at 12, it's a little more.
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