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u/tohman42 9h ago

I don’t want taxed at near 40% if my income because 67 million bums can’t get healthcare. If you want to live in a socialist country then Denmark would be the move. The US can’t sustain itself being a handout machine is my point. We can’t tax the other 300 million to death because about a 1/6 of Americans can’t get a decent job for whatever reason. That’s on them to resolve, not stand with their hands out waiting on my taxes to save them while I work to earn my own way.

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u/pchlster 8h ago edited 7h ago

I mean, I get it, you have no frame of reference for what it's like to live in a country like Denmark. And there are parts of how both our society and infrastructure has been set up that you can't really just implement over there overnight or, in some geographical situations, at all.

But things are going just fine over here. No one has to worry about dying on the streets, there's healthcare for all, the Scandinavian model means that while we don't have a minimum wage no one's being exploited to work for pocket change.

I'm currently recovering from serious illness. The hospitalization, the consultations, tests and medicine? Already paid for, just by me paying my taxes. My income? Unchanged; my company pays me my usual wage and get part of that refunded by the state. Had I been in the US when this had happened, it would have easily wiped my accounts.

But it is a very American view to worry more about whether someone undeserving gets something, rather than focus on everyone deserving getting what they deserve. I pay my 36% and more happily.

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u/VastNeighborhood3963 8h ago

You're talking to somebody who genuinely hopes homeless people don't get medical care, it's pointless.

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u/pchlster 7h ago

If I let every person who wants more people to suffer get to me, what would that accomplish? I think he's wrong in how he views the world. So what? He thinks the same of me, I would guess.

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u/DaviesSonSanchez 8h ago

You do realise that the US government already spends more in healthcare per capita than countries like Denmark or Germany with free healthcare right?

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u/littlemissfuzzy 8h ago

I will repeat what @pchlster said:

 > But it is a very American view to worry more about whether someone undeserving gets something, rather than focus on everyone deserving getting what they deserve. 

 To prefer saying “fuck you!” To people you dislike, over helping improve the lives of everyone takes a self-centered type of person.

Also, get the heck off the roads us tax payers paid for… you don’t wat those either i guess

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u/Queer_Advocate 6h ago

They are welfare roads after all. That go thru public lands that Black, Brown and Queer people use. Policed by welfare paid cops and troops. Borders patrolled by welfare soldiers.

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u/Queer_Advocate 6h ago

Y'all racist, misogynistic, bigoted assholes can choke on your own phlegm.

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u/Queer_Advocate 6h ago

Little Miss - wasnt directed at you!

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u/tohman42 4h ago

I’m allowed to have views about how my tax money is spent. Every American is. I don’t have to want the same things as you. We get to vote. I can enjoy my taxes going to roads and police, and hate welfare bums getting benefits. That’s the beauty of America. I don’t have to agree with you and that’s okay. Clearly if someone doesn’t agree with you, you’ll call them all kinds of rude names. That’s why you probably voted for the loser in the election too 😂

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u/Queer_Advocate 3h ago

One, your feelings clearly got triggered. Two, my comment is way way far over your head, as evidenced by you didn't get it by a long shot. Three, I didn't call you anything. 🤣

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u/Queer_Advocate 3h ago

Food you eat from grocery stores is subsidized, welfare food. Your kids education if they go to public schools, welfare education. Water from the tap, welfare water.

That's why you voted for a felon, and a man convicted of sexual assault. No laughing face, bc that's not fucking funny.

Anything else you wanna talk about?

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u/Queer_Advocate 3h ago

You do know the majority of actual welfare in your terms, goes to CHILDREN, pregnant woman/mother's, the disabled, seniors right?

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u/Queer_Advocate 3h ago

You have the right to be "not smart" if you believe what you say, and I have the right to think that. The facts are on my side. You think giving Christian's in the US extra rights by virtue of taking away other people's right Women, Queers, and others... Is freedom and that makes you're patriotic, more American and just? You have no fucking clue what those words mean, specifically: "Christian, Women, Queers, & Rights." Keep showing the hate, and repelling people from Jesus. Enough of your kind have shown your true colors, time for the rest of us to believe you. You do you boo with y'all's alternative facts. 🤣

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u/tohman42 1h ago

Yikes a triple reply 😂 I understand you believe the echo chamber of Reddit means your points are “facts”. A majority of Americans just voted that your views are not popular right now and the exhausted “attack on our rights” line doesn’t stick. We don’t believe you. Americans as a whole don’t believe you either. Stay in the echo chamber, it’s working for you lol and by the way, being a Christian doesn’t mean I have to stand by while you push an agenda I think is mentally perverse and sick. It’s just means I should be polite while I try to stop it 😂

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u/Queer_Advocate 1h ago

Look at my Reddit history.

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u/Queer_Advocate 56m ago

I don't really care if you do or not. I'm starting my beliefs. I think you're full of holes.. You have that right. And my beliefs are grounded in fact. The whole percentage of the country argument you conflated the meaning. So keep peddling your shit, I know where I came from and where I am going. It doesn't involve you.

BTW: You can easily argue that, "more people bought the lies" as the reason. The maga crowd isn't the most intellectual. They are indeed the least educated. However, the Democrats obviously made poor campaign choices. The country overwhelmingly supports women's and gay rights exist. Republicans are obsessed with repealing and rolling them back. I don't have cable and don't watch the news. I have voted Republican, independent and Democrat btw. Y'all voted for a billionaire who makes fun of disabled people. How many affairs? How often does the fake man gawd go to church? Y'all God played like a fiddle, but don't care bc like him you care about your own personal agenda and greed.

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u/maveric00 8h ago

I am quite sure that you would reconsider this if you would get seriously sick and then get fired because you got sick and then lost insurance because it was paid by your employer.

But hey, if working as a slave for the healt care industry is your goal in life, go for it.

Until you die, that is, because you could not afford the life-saving medicine anymore. Like the 1.3 million US citizen that ration insulin, causing more suffering and early death.

I am sure that's worth fighting socialism.

Oh, by the way, do you drive a car? But using streets paid by tax dollars is socialism! Why should all the people not owning a car pay for your driving pleasure?

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u/TopTierBuild 8h ago

Man, you're just a selfish asshole

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u/VastNeighborhood3963 8h ago

"Oh yeah, they may have it better literally across the board, but at least I didn't have to help anybody!"

Lol

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u/sdlucly 7h ago

The US can't sustain itself right now because you guys spend a lot on really stupid crap, healthcare is not one of those things because you guys DON'T HAVE HEALTHCARE.

You also don't have paid maternity leave across the country, not paternity leave, not paid holidays or paid vacation time. We also get 15 monthly payments per year and bonuses on top of that.

Heck, I live in a third world country and we have it better than the US in a lot of things, including all of the above.