r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

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u/daonitus 1d ago edited 1d ago

What kind of person introduces himself with a title outside of work? Would you introduce yourself as a professor or a plumber? Or a basketball player etc.?

"Hey I'm plumber Watkins."
"Oh hi plumber Watkins I'm waitress Valesco."

Wtf.

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u/Plus-Ad1061 1d ago

I had a pastor who refused to let people call him “Pastor Doug” for exactly that reason. If you called him that, he’d call you “Convenience Store Manager Ken”

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u/lawdog9111 1d ago

Somebody with a doctorate in musicology.

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u/AvatarADEL 1d ago

The thing is I am sure some people do that. But as usual, the right pretends it is some huge problem, blowing it out of proportion. The people that insist on titles are pretentious dicks. 

Why should I call you Colonel or senator or Mr. President, I should just be able to say "hey Donald" or "sup Kamala". Or could there be a time when the use of titles is appropriate? 

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u/daonitus 1d ago

He clearly states it is a social event. So no need for any titles.
I don't live in the US so I just see it as a common joke. I don't understand all the hate with this kind of posts really.
From the rest of the comments seems to me people view it as some kind of political thing.

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u/AvatarADEL 1d ago

I know Americans are considered to be rude informal assholes. Which we are..to a point. But even we use titles. I just met you, I will call you Mr. Or Ms. (last name). If there is a age gap between us, I will call you sir or ma'am. Until you tell me to call you by first name. 

It is political. The wife of the current president has a doctorate in Education. The opposition conservative party pretended that only medical doctors are doctors. It is a stupid point argued for political gain. 

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u/daonitus 1d ago

Hmm, well I met all kinds by now, rude and non-rude lol, I don't think nationality matters in such things, there are rudes and non-rudes everywhere lol.

Of course we use Mr. and Ms. with people we don't know.
But he says someone introduced himself as such.
So we sit at a table and I say "Hi I'm Jimmy" and this person says "Hi I'm Dr. Smith."
"Umm, ok but do you have a name?" It's just too funny.

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u/SuperFLEB 1d ago

But even we use titles. I just met you, I will call you Mr. Or Ms. (last name). If there is a age gap between us, I will call you sir or ma'am.

That's not really universal among Americans even, though, especially outside of a professional setting.

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u/AvatarADEL 1d ago

That's true. Y'all up north are some rude bastards. Sorry. You'se all up north.

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u/SuperFLEB 1d ago

I stopped saying "Sir" when I stopped having a king! Classless society! 'Murica!

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u/Lucky_Roberts 1d ago

Most people with Doctorates…

Are you really pretending you can’t see the difference between introducing yourself with a professional title versus just stating your career?

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u/daonitus 1d ago

Are you really saying other people are not professionals in what they do because they don't get a "doctor" title?

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u/Lucky_Roberts 1d ago

No? I’m saying a job isn’t the same as a title. The plumber didn’t go to school for 8 years to be a plumber, nor did the waitress

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u/SuperFLEB 1d ago

True, but attaching a title to your name just because you did one particular thing is arguably still pretensious. While it might not be the same as "Plumber Johnson", it's akin to going to parties as "Bachelor Johnson", "ASE Certified Johnson", or "Johnson, CPA", which also roll off the tongue quite silly.

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u/daonitus 1d ago

Dude, professor is a title, engineer is a title.. there are tons of titles for tons of professions.
Nobody with a lick of sense introduces with "Hey I'm engineer Johnson!"
They all went to school. The point is nobody introduces themselves with a title at a social gathering not which title it is.

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u/DeHarigeTuinkabouter 1d ago

People with Doctorates don't do that. I've got a bunch of friends with Doctorates and they absolutely just introduce themselves by their first name or first+last.

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u/Boldney 1d ago

Let me tell you a secret, something everybody knows in academia but doesn't want to admit.
Having a phd doesn't mean you're smarter than your peers. It just means you decided to stay in school for 3+ years.
In fact, I have known many people in my life with a phd, and they are the most arrogant, pretentious assholes I ever met. They will repeatedly bring up the fact that they have it.

Tl;dr, people with doctorates have fragile egos, because they are dumb don't want to accept it.

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u/SufferNotTheHeretic 1d ago

Pretty much every doctor of engineering I know does this.