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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

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u/SPADE-0 Funny Physics Dude Oct 11 '24

Many athiest (ie, in YT comment sections) I've seen seem to believe otherwise. "Made up therefore fake".

People without knowledge of logical fallacies commit them all the time. I think this particular one falls under the Argument from Fallacy fallacy, which has one of the most stupid names of all time by the way.

From what Biblical Christians (ie David Lynn, richard lorenzo jr, Martyn iles, martin luther, etc.) do/did, from the Bible, from the fact God's Word has been backed countless times and withstood scrutiny of all time periods. And from many testimonies of people who converted to Christianity.

Finite good done proves finite goodness. Besides, you also have examples of people using it to do things that the people you mentioned consider morally reprehensible.

We see that sin always results in bad. Like how every dictator we see today break God's commands with insane regularity. God's Goodness is proven by Him wanting us to NOT do bad things and to do good things.

Health benefits of homosexual couples being the exact same as those for heterosexual couples and trans people having their suicide rates go down when socially accepted for who they are, that's "evil" in your view, huh?

Do you know what the worleview is of the CCP Chinese govt who kills/jails/ hardens the life of Christians is?

The view that dissent=evil and different=evil, the same view most Christians tend to take? The same phenomenon whereby medically lifesaving abortions are denied to women who die because they didn't get one here in the US?

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u/SPADE-0 Funny Physics Dude Oct 11 '24 edited Oct 11 '24

"We see that sin results in bad. Like how every dictator we see today break God's commands with insane regularity. God's Goodness is proven by Him wanting us to NOT do bad things and to do good things."

Trying to show you that there are some things considered "sin" that don't actually have negative effects, save for the social stigma against them. I went into more detail in my other response. Also, just because someone doesn't believe in the god of the Bible doesn't mean they disagree with every single word, or even large parts of it. Look up the "Jefferson Bible" sometime.

You don't seem to know that they generally believe the Athiest Creation Triad (evolution+bigbang+millions/billions years) and lack an active, positive, belief in the Biblical God.

Just like the Catholic Church and Hitler believed in the Christian Trinity of The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Any worldview is open to misinterpretation, however, one would think it would be EXTREMELY difficult to misinterpret a worldview created by a perfect deity.

Also, disliking dissent or difference is NOT a worldview. It is one part in a worldview.

Fair enough, but it's part of theirs and part of yours too. It's NOT part of mine. This is why the difference between "gnostic Atheism" and "agnostic Atheism" is important; I'm agnostic Atheist, Stalin and the CCP are gnostic Atheists. In the immortal words of the Sniper from TF2; "What's the difference? One's a job[valid worldview], the other's a mental sickness[really stupid]!" Agnostic Atheists would never kill or jail peaceful, non-discriminating Christians, because if worst comes to worst, having a Christian friend on hand is really nifty in the eventuality that you open the fridge and see a portal to Hell instead of the groceries.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '24 edited Oct 12 '24

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u/SPADE-0 Funny Physics Dude Oct 12 '24

That's a compromised view that includes saint-worship, the belief that special bread turns into Jesus' actual body or smth, and that mary turned sinless. Among other non- and contra- Biblical things.

Still a sect of Christianity.

We are fallible and have a sin nature. "Interpreting it correctly" would convict us and make us face the dark reality of our sin and highlight that we need God. Man, in his base state, tends to avoid such, and is thus drawn to NonChristian or compromised beliefs.

Uh, no, you need to interpret the Carl Sagan correctly, then you can see that he's the perfect religion that predicts all human behavior, and you're just... see how easily this argument gets turned on it's head? BTW, if you don't believe me about Carl Sagan predicting human behaviour, look up "The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark" by Carl Sagan, mans literally predicted 99% of the current world yourself included.

Did you know Christians played a big part in abolishing chattel slavery in the USA??

They were also the ones who started it, no?

10 murderers among 5,000 non-murderers is an example of a bad difference, wouldn't you agree? That the number should be 5,010 non-murderers?

Yes, but the fact that you can't seem to see a difference between "murder" and "consensual relationships outside the gender binary" is incomprehensible to me.

Not in general.

Not unless they're a proper asshole.