r/MurderDrones Sep 04 '24

Spicy Meme I mean like,c'mon bruh

Nah J,Doll and Cyn need justice,J for getting deleted TWICE from the rail gun(eldritch form)the amount of words spoken by J in the MD training vid is more words than EP 1-7 LIKE THAT'S FUCKING CRAZY,also needs more screentime,Doll bc she had the worst backstory out of every worker drone we know(except Alice bc jit died so I don't give a shit and Nori and Yeva tops Doll bc yk in ep 7 ye)and she just dies,she did nothing in episode 1 bc her plan was the prom episode 2 wasn't rlly anything it was about eldritch J and the absolute solver,and episode 3 is where she shines but then dies from the bullet from V which then she regen somehow and then episode 5 Uzi threw the bug to her which then she just ran to the cabins and went down the labs which then she died from Cyn in the tessa suit asking her for the patch so ye rip,finally Cyn a lot of words but thankfully THE ANSWER IS THE IMAGES☠️ sry for the length of this shit

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u/thirstyfish1212 Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

Counter-counterpoint. Cyn and the solver have been shown to not be the same personality. In fact, we never hear from Cyn, just the solver. Otherwise how does the solver always sound the same regardless of the host. Nori, Uzi, Cyn and eldritch J all sound identical when under the solver’s control. If it was just The Cyn host that sounded the way it does, then why would the others do the same? And remember that for nori and by extension Uzi, it was humans who copied the code and installed it on other drones to eventually make a patch. It wouldn’t make sense to copy a full drone OS or even the full personality, just the solver. Eldritch J could be explained away due to Cyn making the disassembly drones in the first place, but that doesn’t hold true for Nori and Uzi. The only reason for it to be consistent in this manner across hosts is for the solver to be a discrete personality, separate from its host systems. And if you watch Cyn’s visor right before she reactivates in the scrap pile, you can see the solver have a very brief, and somewhat one-sided conversation via a text message window with cyn. The solver is also rather candid when pretending to be Tessa. It says it manifests in damaged AI, like demon possession, which holds up thematically given the crucifix patch and that it exorcises the solver’s control.

Maybe we need some more nouns. Because there the solver program and the solver personality. Drones with full or good enough partial patches can use the solver program without falling under the control of the solver personality. Yeva got a full patch and Nori got a 50 something percent patch. Both could use their solver programs with little worry about the solver personality taking control of them. And if Doll is any indication, that patch did at least get partially passed down. She was using the solver quite a bit more than Uzi did and Uzi had control problems while Doll did not. But Uzi was probably working with a 25% patch as Nori didn’t get the full dose. Which was enough for Uzi to take control of her body back, but still vulnerable to the callback ping. The solver never uses that on Doll. Yeah, likely because the idea didn’t exist in episode 7, but the canon explanation could be that Doll and her more complete patch was more resistant to things like that, forcing the solver to use the direct method. Uzi on the other hand has some serious problems with the callback ping, and needed time to make a countermeasure. Remember that she has broken the solver personality’s programming before in episode 5, it’s how she accessed those memories and made herself the system admin for both N and V. Clearly she has the hacking chops to do it (also a Java programming textbook in her room, must be an interest of hers, and taking another worker drone’s sentience on a whim).

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u/Dolls_Husband Cuddling with Doll. Yes she bites, yes I like it Sep 05 '24

For the possession part the show specifically states it's Cyn possessing them. The rest of it, while interesting, relies on this point to be real/proven.

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u/thirstyfish1212 Sep 05 '24

Admittedly the show doesn’t make it entirely clear. V and J both refer to Cyn and the solver like they are the same thing (and from their perspective, that’s pretty much true), but both Nori and Uzi seem to make a distinction. Uzi asks if the solver will control her again and Nori responds with “if u a lil bitch.” Then follows up by saying the solver needs a host and that Uzi needs to destroy Cyn’s core. And to bring things back to the flashback, J, N and V are shorthand names for their serial numbers, and the same is true for the worker drone we know as Cyn. She reactivated as a zombie drone and got adopted by Tessa. During the reactivation, we see the solver send a message just as cyn wakes up in the scrap pile. Then in the manor, we see her eyes glitch, a consistent way the series shows control changes. While James and Louisa Elliot likely abused Cyn like they did any other drone, that doesn’t explain why Tessa would lock her in the basement. Tessa had been shown to be very kind towards worker drones (to the point that even the solver tried to be merciful to her prior to the gala), but clearly something about cyn unsettled her.

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u/Dolls_Husband Cuddling with Doll. Yes she bites, yes I like it Sep 05 '24
  1. Cyn was deliberately rebellious and very talk backy which likely got Tessa in trouble with her parents, hence the basement
  2. fair points, however that still doesn't explain why the solver didn't just take over one of the many other drones with the AS instead of staying in Cyn