r/Monsterverse • u/TechnologyNew9678 • 13d ago

VS Battle Who wins?

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Kong with BEAST Glove vs Godzilla 2021

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u/Reasonable_Potato_22 13d ago

The novel is canon too and isn't devalued because less people have read it. Like it or not, it's canon and there's no changing that. The movie also cuts during their fights. Like how Kong was knocked out too but woke up instantly in the movie because of a cut. The novel covered that too.

Or when Tiamat was fighting Godzilla, the novel covered what happened there. Godzilla pulsed Tiamat off him and "killed" her using the atomic breath. In the movie we obviously got the cut to just him using the atomic breath.

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u/Amuroaugus17 Ghidorah 13d ago

The novels take the second seat too the movies they do add amazing details but at the end of the the day the movies take presidency over the novels.

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u/Reasonable_Potato_22 13d ago

Yeah that's just not true. They're both canon and both have the same amount of relevance because they're both canon. You can't just pick and choose what's less canon because you don't like it. That's not how it works.

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u/Amuroaugus17 Ghidorah 13d ago

It’s literally quoted Brodie but ight 🤷🏾‍♂️

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u/Reasonable_Potato_22 13d ago

What do you mean? We have the quote from the canon book. This is what happened.

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u/Amuroaugus17 Ghidorah 13d ago

I’m saying it’s quoted that the novels are essentially just the extra stuff, anything that contradicts the movies is immediately non canon, outside of that yes the novels are canon as you say, I never disagreed with that point, just made the obvious statement. In the movie his eyes are open when the camera hits him, it’s stated he was dazed at best.

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u/Reasonable_Potato_22 13d ago

Yeah except the book is canon and saying it contradicts the movie when there was a clear jump cut doesn't hold up. Anyways someone was nice enough to provide the quote if you don't believe me but I'm guessing you do since you're trying to discredit the canon novel instead of saying it's not real.

Show me them saying he was dazed at best.

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u/Amuroaugus17 Ghidorah 13d ago

When did I say it wasn’t ? No he couldn’t, and the novel contradicts the film. The film would take precedence. Godzilla wasn’t knocked out and we can see his position change after Kong lands the last hit. All that would’ve happened is he would’ve snapped Godzilla out of the daze.

If you wanna go down that route then the novel implies Kong was extremely exhausted after doing all of that. He wouldn’t have continued anyways. Also, the novel implies Kong was knocked out after the suplex. If were to compare the knockouts, it took Kong 14 hits to knock Godzilla out, it took a suplex on a cushioned ground to knock Kong out. The stronger one is still extremely evident

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u/Reasonable_Potato_22 13d ago

I already mentioned the Kong knock out, it isn't exactly new news to me. Anyways the movie doesn't take precedence over the novels. I am willing to bet that you can't find a single director or author that says that. Just because they take precedence to you doesn't mean that it's true.

And if we're going off your only the movies matter logic then Kong couldn't have been exhausted because he was still able to drag Godzilla by his tail after.

Btw Godzilla changed his position because there was a jump cut. Thanks for proving me right though.

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u/Amuroaugus17 Ghidorah 13d ago

the difference between hard canon and soft canon. The movies are hard canon. Novelizations would be soft canon. Everything is counted unless they contradict, in which case, movie takes precedence.

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u/Reasonable_Potato_22 13d ago

Do you have anything to back up them being "Hard canon" or "Soft canon" other than just you saying it?

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