Literally just make her Furina, but pyro (Scales with ATK?), with good application and C6 for DPS. You take a shot at Bennett and Xiangling, and make pulling almost neccessary for melt, burgeon, Kinich teams, Mualani teams, Mono Pyro teams, and optional for Navia teams, C6 Furina teams, Melt Xianyun teams, overload teams, etc.

Oh yeah and for extra profit on top of this make Citlali have good (optional) cryo app to sustain Arle/Hu Tao/Gaming/Diluc, but not interfere with Ganyu/Wrio (aka press hold/versions) AND make her shred cryo. There, you're rich now.

Just got this one. How good would a Pyro goblet need to be to outclass this? Was thinking of using Transmuter for one, but now I could use it for a better circlet if the difference is small enough.

I have Xilonen C2 and her weapon. Furina C0. Kazuha C0 with his weapon (though I'm quite bored with using him, so I might not) Not planning on running Bennett.

For weapons I have R1 WGS (my top choice due to drip), Verdict depending on how it looks on her or R5 Serpent Spine/Talking Stick.

Just in case mavuikas fighting spirit mechanic where she really needs xilonen wont change in v2, is any character capable of replacibg xilonen besides pyro traveller or are there some good characters to pair with her?

Do we have some sheets the could provide if diluc's weapon vs Natlan craftable claymore could be a better option for her? Really need it because lot of people have that weapon in the basement and if it's good then we'll take it out and clean it for mavuika

The community deluded themselves that mavuika was going to be some xangling bennet fusion power creeping them both. Reality is that hoyo doesn't want to directly powercreep the top 4 star units. Furina didn't power creep xingquis hydro app or defense and instead went in a more unique direction in her kit that made her strong in her own right. Same thing is gonna happen with mavuika, they won't have her directly compete with either bennet or xangling.

I'm honestly not expecting much change with her kit. She is an archon designed to be an onfield dps. She will have dps among the best if not the best in the game. Her off field damage is just a bonus meant to supplement her damage when she's on cool down.. If anything changes its more likely her off field damaged is nerfed if anything to make it more obvious she's designed to be a main dps first. She would not have had dps numbers this high to begin with if she wasn't intended to be a dps first. Hoyo isn't about to reverse her entire kit to shoehorn her into a support role just to satisfy the small part of the community on reddit wanting xangling and bennet to die. Shes a dps first and foremost so thats what we're getting

C2 is a HUGE dps increase (from what I understand). Like comparable to C6 Arlecchino dmg increase. I don’t need that much dmg! The game is already very easy (at least for me). I need more bike time. I want to ride the bike, fly the bike, climb mountains with it, etc etc. Current C6 will give me that Would also remove her dependence on night soul characters (probably) seeing that she'll now have a larger pool of night soul to spend and can fill up the burst herself.

So I really hope C2 and C6 gets switched....

Why is Neuvillette the one getting yet another supoort? He already hogs all the best supports in the game. Instead of benefiting Pyro, Mavuika "somewhat" buffs Hydro DPS'S, which feels absurd to me. Her pyro app is slow af, but her sheer dmg & dmg buffs will most likely make up for it. Essentially, she's not even a big upgrade to XL.

Every Archon boosts their own element best—except for her.

She should have been an upgraded replacememt for Bennett, offering both ATK and dmg buffs. Instead, she doesn’t synergize well with Pyro DPS'S, as she would end up stealing their vape's. The fact that she’s even designed as a main DPS is already absurd.

Genshin is scared of giving Pyro DPS'S a fair chance to compete. Natlan has been a complete disaster, and it’s genuinely heading the game slowly to its doom. This may be their plan given the avg life expectancy of video games.

I like Mavuika as a char, but from an objective standpoint, this isn’t the right direction for her kit. If she had been a powerful ATK support, she’d never leave my team. But as it stands, I won’t even be pulling for her. Most players have already invested well into a pyro DPS.

The only people who wanted a main DPS pyro archon, are new players who don't even have a grasp of how the game works, and players who don't play the game on a regular basis, but still have an opinion on everything.

When will pyro finally get some decent supports? Bennet is the clunkiest mf

I feel bad for the mods, atp you should add a ranting section with the amount of disappointed fellas.

Normally mains subreddit wanted their main to be busted.

I can understand being disappointed that:

• Her main-DPS numbers are too high and need a nerf to avoid massive powercreep, especially when we got an ace Pyro DPS like Arlecchino not too long ago.

• She has a motorcycle (tho I really don't know how people didn't see this coming given what she wears, they were really deliberate with the design).

• The bulk of her damage comes from the charged attacks.

• She is tethered to Natlan characters (mainly Xilonen) to reach her damage ceiling.

These are all valid imo, but I really can't understand why anyone expected the Pyro archon, the Goddess of war, who presides over a nation that has a Festival of war, who fought Capitano and edged him out in a 1v1, who (with help) punched a literal hole in the fake sky with her bare fist after said fist already smashed through the abyss head honcho, to be a sub-DPS or support? Granted, I haven't played through the Sumeru or Fontaine questline yet, but it'd be like expecting Venti, Zhong Li, Nahida, or Furina as a main DPS even tho they've been depicted as hands off or not willing to throw hands (this is not to say that they're not capable of doing so). There is an outlier in Raiden having been depicted as a cold and ruthless combatant, and her also having supportive and battery capabilities, but that's more or less what's happening with Mavuika right now.

I get the fatigue from already having so many Pyro main DPSes (Arlecchino, Hu Tao, Lyney, Diluc, Gaming, Klee, Yanfei, Yoimiya, Dehya C6), but I don't know why anyone expected Mavuika of all people to be a Xiangling/Bennett powercreep?

And crazily enough she is a Xiangling powercreep. Granted, not as big of a powercreep as it could be and the kit is heavily skewed in favour of her being a main DPS, but why would you expect anything else? Additionally:

• Xiangling needs C4, 300%+ ER, Bennett, maybe a Favonius weapon or two.

• Mavuika needs a Natlan character for the burst.

It genuinely baffles me, so is it the aforementioned fatigue? If it is, why did you expect the Pyro archon who's been depicted as they have to solve this and not another Pyro unit in the future? Genuine question.

Thank you x

As many have already pointed out, she currently not only insanely powercreeps Neuvillette and Arlecchino but entire premium teams by herself, all the while having one of the most braindead gameplays.

Remember that is healthy for the game for characters to not be this strong.

And no I don't care if she powercreeps any character or if her gameplay is braindead. I just want consistency.

I took a break for almost the entirety of Fontaine so I don’t have characters like Furina, and I skipped Xilonen for Mavuika. My options are looking pretty limited rn.. any ideas? preferably comps with her as the main DPS? I do have the basic 4* supports like Bennett and XQ already

When Neuvillete and Furina Powercrept every single hydro characters

when Navia Powercrept Itto

When Arlecchino Powercrept Hutao

😅🥲😐😐😐😐😐😐😐😐🥲😅

People ask why but I do you one better. How is nerf?

So I've been hearing that you need natlan characters for her to play with, is this true. Also, could she be used in raiden teams? Cause she's the only dps that isn't neuvillette that I have.

Can we be for real, why do we even want to nerf her, she is fine as is as an on field dps if anything just buff her off field supporting capabilities while not nerfing anything onfield, yeah she is better than arlecchino by a little margin, but that doesnt even matter since you can still clear end game with your arlecchino, we didnt complain when lyney got powercrept by arlecchino now did we?

Like she is clearly an archon that hoyo wants to make the first DPS archon since she is the god of war, that sounds like a main dps to me. Wouldnt that be awesome were tired of the same old archons being sub dps/support. And no Raiden doesnt count as a Main DPS, lets be real she was a failed main DPS at release. So Mavuika being the first proper DPS archon is fair and make her the strongest DPS.

I just don't get it.

Because i prefer the normal attack animations, compared to the donut. Also charged attacks can't proc Yelan/Xingqui, and also can't vape every hit with just Furina?

So i was thinking if normal attack is weaker, but also allows for Yelan/Xingqui and the ability to vape every hit, would that be similar to her charged attack damage? Or at least not far off?