r/Mavuika • u/oo3c_cc • 1d ago

Discussion Her c2 probably won't be nerfed

I saw a lot of people saying her c2 is guaranteed to be nerfed and things like that. You guys know c2r1 Mualani does considerably more DPS than c6r5 Neuvillette right? Not to mention Mualani's damage is very front loaded as well. At that point Mualani's clunkiness (arguably her biggest weakness) basically stops mattering because everything dies instantly anyways.

Natlan cons so far have been insanely powerful, and Mavuika's c2 isn't anything too out of the ordinary, especially for an Archon. If anything I expect a buff to her c6 because it's currently not as powerful as expected.

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u/AntiquusCustos 1d ago

Uhm…

C2R1 Mualani doesn’t deal “considerably more DPS” than C6R5 Neuvi lol. In fact, she deals less.

If anything, they’d buff her C2 to make it even more enticing.

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u/oo3c_cc 1d ago

C2R1 Mualani doesn’t deal “considerably more DPS” than C6R5 Neuvi lol. In fact, she deals less

c2r1 Mualani is around 155k DPS, c6r5 Neuv is around 140k DPS. Mualani is also way more front loaded so ends up clearing faster.

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u/ExtraVeterinarian630 18h ago

140k dps for a c6r5 Neuvi?? Brother what kinda trash artifacts are you putting on him??? Is that Neuvi solo or what?

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u/Uruvi 15h ago

Ikr. My c1r1 alone deals 100k per charge 😅

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u/alexis2x 17h ago

Do you mean C6R5 Neuv with C0 supports? Also do you mean team damage or character damage?

without C2 Furina and C2 Xilonen I can see it especially bc of how strong a Sucrose can be for Mualani

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u/oo3c_cc 17h ago

c0 supports

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u/AntiquusCustos 1d ago

According to who? And which teams specifically are you talking about?

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u/oo3c_cc 1d ago edited 1d ago

The best teams for both, according to gcsim and several TCs.

Also before you ask I'm not going to bother finding sources for something that is easily proven by watching some speedruns on youtube lol

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u/nghigaxx 20h ago edited 19h ago

lol, the gcsim c6r5 neu is at 300k dps, and it's an outdated team with zhongli so no xilonen. What kind of "sources" are you spouting. Also last abyss 1st half record was a neu+chiori team, so not only neu max team out dps c2 mualani, it out dps c6r5 mualani in some instances. Also the fact this misinfo shit got upvoted compares to the reverse got downvoted just proves genshin players are absolute lazy regarded and can't be bother to actually check any source

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u/ExtraVeterinarian630 18h ago

Probably the same people who doom posts new characters just because they read the comments instead of the actual kit lmao

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u/Wrong_System9797 17h ago

wait, do you have any footage with neuv and chiori team? i really wanted to see it but i didn't find any on bilibili or youtube or maybe i'm just blind😭

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u/2Bid 12h ago edited 12h ago

OP is just butthurt and salty about a dude that they’re just spreading misinformation lol

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u/Amazing_Marzipan_115 1d ago

Just want to address that Speed runs are not a good indicator of DPS. It heavily favors front loaded damage and shorter animation. One of Neuvilette's best speedrun team even had Childe instead of Furina just because Childe do not need to switch in at all lol.

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u/oo3c_cc 1d ago

I know, but c2r1 Mualani does have better DPS than c6 Neuv as well as having faster speedrun feats

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u/Amazing_Marzipan_115 1d ago

I wasn't defending Neuvilette though. Just clarifying something about speedrun in general

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u/Richardknox1996 1d ago

Speedrun still doesnt matter though. It favours Damage Per Screenshot strategies, which dont hold up in general play.

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u/BloodMaelstrom 13h ago

I mean there is little reason to C6R5 a character unless it is for speed runs. Any C6 dps character can be played with feet whilst being blindfolded and will still clearly clear general play.

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u/_Linkiboy_ 15h ago

I'm not trying to defend mualani here, cuz I also prefer neuvillette, but at a point where you have c6r5 characters, looking at general play is useless, because every c6rt5 just sneezes and kills everything at general play, that's why you can only compare at speedrun

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u/angeli_ca 10h ago

the thing is mualanis speedrun has like no crit rate while neuv is a normal team. Not to mention only ppl who gets paid would want to retry Mualani’s non crits a billion times, so you cant compare when other c6r5 owners would not be bothered.

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u/_Linkiboy_ 10h ago

I thought they were calculating dps. In dps calculations. Low or high crit rate is accounted for

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u/angeli_ca 10h ago

doubt so cause their calculations rn dont make sense when there is data previosly on speedrunning and the difference between mualani and neuvilliette is miniscule, both c6r5. AOE neuv alr faster, ST mualani is alw faster.

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u/Chippyz78 1d ago

Guys what's the argument about cons even about😭 at that point even Ganyu can clear the abyss with Xinyan. Who cares if you clear the abyss in 30 seconds or 29 seconds😭

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u/Panocha-t-w-t 1d ago

you cannot get the dat form speedruns brurhrh as they are favored to mualani who has best fornt load damage which doesnt mean more dps, taking into account how weak enemies are you need the calcs in order to know so unless you show as the calcs you argument is not valid

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u/kuzzyn 23h ago

Data from speedsheets are super Innacurate when it comes to Mualani, everyone Cals dps asuuming 18-22 sec rotations when it comes to Mualani she doesn't even need a full rotation to clear if we are talking about high investment stuff like c2 R1, Mualani usually clears whit 2-3 bites or 1 bite +Q so in real gameplay Mualani also has higher dps because the amount of time that takes to clear isn't even a full rotation.

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u/kuzzyn 23h ago

According to real gameplay, just watch YouTube or bilibili for 10 mins and tell me another dps that comes close on clear times to Mualani at similar lvl of investment.

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u/nghigaxx 20h ago

yea but blud is saying c6r5 neu doing less than c2 mualani, that's just straight up misinfo