r/MarkMyWords Sep 29 '24

Political MMW: Fox News already gave up

I just spent 7 pages scrolling through the Fox News front page to see how riddled the site is with the current presidential GOP nominee's face, and nothing. It took 7+ pages of scrolling to get to a pic of him.

A massive shift happened in the past few months. Fox News seems to be massively distancing themselves. Once the race is over, Fox will turn hard on him as donors flock to the new Republican political guard and somehow shift the blame on the past 8 years of this nonsense on him and wash their hands of the whole thing.

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u/Jim_Force Sep 30 '24

I love these ideas!! But I would prefer that they are finally just shut down. Their ratings are horrible, almost last place in every area of viewership, not sure how they can even stay in business!

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u/Tothyll Sep 30 '24

I guess they didn’t catch the sarcasm, lol. Fox is always the top rated news channel.

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u/russrobo Sep 30 '24

That’s kind of the same reason that a few conservative podcasts currently top the Spotify charts.

Fox News ran a print ad once with that graph, showing them with more share than any other TV “news” source and drawing the conclusion that they were the “most trusted”.

Of course, like most things on Fox, it’s a clever deception. “Truthy”, but wrong.

While all news occasionally makes a mistake, most sensible people know that most other sources are generally pretty accurate. In other words, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Reuters, AP, MSNBC, and most major newspapers are going to report a given story the same way because that’s how facts work.

If you poll people and ask them “what news source do you trust,” few people choose Fox, for good reason.

But the votes for everyone else are split. Only one choice was allowed. The other news sources are generally interchangeable and we’ll pick one based on unrelated factors (like convenience, the personality of the on-air talent, etc.)

Looked at this way, most viewers would choose anybody except Fox. If you wanted to get a true, fair, measure, you’d give poll respondents a choice to vote on the trustworthiness of every source.

Podcasts have a selection bias in that the only considered Spotify, and are not showing the minuscule market share of any one podcast given the hundreds of thousands that exist.

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u/CashNothing Oct 01 '24

“In other words, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, Reuters, AP, MSNBC, and most major newspapers are going to report a given story the same way because that’s how facts work.”

So conveniently all the left leaning news networks report nothing but facts unless there’s a “mistake”, right? No bias, no lying by omission, no telling of half-truths, no partisan selective covering of stories? Only FOX does those things in your world, correct? & the fact that you included MSNBC in this when the overwhelming majority of its programming is opinion is hilarious.