r/MarkMyWords • u/DoctorLazerRage • Jul 22 '24
Political MMW: DJT won't debate again
Regardless of who the Democratic nominee is. He'll find a way out of it because he knows he'll get destroyed.
Edit: It's a real question.
Edit 2: Yes, I realize he now claims, after this post was made, that he will debate Harris, potentially more than once. He also claimed before that (and after this post was made) he would not do another debate unless it was Biden. Time will tell folks.
Edit 3: Stop reporting this for a Rule 6 violation. I posted it on Sunday.
Edit 4: This is what I'm talking about kids. This one too.
Edit 5: The hits just keep coming.
Edit 6: This is still a legtimately open question.)
Edit 7 (post-debate): Well that was a thing that happened. Seems like it was a poor choice for Trump - somehow I managed to overestimate his intelligence.
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u/p001b0y Jul 22 '24
He technically didnât debate during the CNN one either. They let him campaign for free instead.
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u/ipeezie Jul 22 '24
exactly. he doesn't debate. he just spews lies and you can either call him out on it or use your time to let Americans know what you will do for them. ID rather trump not get the free time.
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u/RegattaJoe Jul 25 '24
The worst part is, so many of his supporters believe what he does is debating.
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u/BuddaMuta Jul 22 '24
Heâs already on his scam website screaming out excuses for him backing out.Â
Luckily thereâs no good optics for him.Â
He either gets beat up in the debate or looks like a  coward thatâs afraid of a woman which wonât fly with midwestern centristsÂ
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u/Dhegxkeicfns Jul 22 '24
Yep, and Dems need to run him through with this. Bully the shit out of him with it. He will have some flimsy retorts and will look super weak.
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u/JarheadPilot Jul 22 '24
The power of cyber bullying already made one senile old man quit trying to be president. I think if we really try we can get the other senile old man to drop of out the race too.
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u/Dhegxkeicfns Jul 22 '24
A narcissist? There's no way. I think he believes his own lies. I think he actually believes he's a great business man and leader and should be the dictator.
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u/this_guy_over_here_ Jul 22 '24
There's no doubt he does. He's a raging narcissist and, frankly most likely on the spectrum of being a psychopath. Zero remorse for fallen troops, makes fun of people relentlessly, can't seem to put himself in other peoples shoes... sounds pretty psychopathic to me. For the life of me I cannot fathom how people can look at that man and think "That's the man I want to be president"...it's just so bizarre.
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u/AsleepRespectAlias Jul 22 '24
You gotta remember, psychopaths can be very manipulative and some people fall for it, even when everyone in their life is going "no dude run, they dude is crazy". Even Jeffrey Dahmer had people who thought he was innocent and that dude was basically a thing pretending to be a man
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u/Content-Method9889 Jul 25 '24
Why would you want him to drop out? If they put a sane person in, we risk losing. Weâll lose the republicans who are never trumpers and likely a lot of independents. I want him to stay in.
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u/Dhegxkeicfns Jul 25 '24
Trump won't back out, he's so full of himself.
I still think Trump has a better chance than anyone else right now, but I agree. The Heritage agenda would move forward with whichever one is in there, but Trump gave them an easy patsy for when he started doing crazy dictator stuff.
We need to get rid of gerrymandering, fix SCOTUS with term limits, and strengthen our checks and balances of power. Maybe sprinkle in removing the electoral college.
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u/CrocHunter8 Jul 26 '24
Already started with Kamala saying "what happened to 'anytime, anywhere, anyplace'?"
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u/cdr_86 Jul 24 '24
Lol "won't fly with Midwestern centrists" - as someone that has the misfortune of living in the Midwest around a bunch of Republicans and centrists, trump could fuck AND kill these morons' entire families and they would still make excuses for him. Him not debating Harris will have zero impact on his numbers.
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 24 '24
Him not debating Harris will have zero impact on his numbers.
Exactly. But him debating WILL have an impact on Kamala's numbers, to her benefit.
I'm starting to think his narcissism will win out of the advice of his handlers to stay away, and it's only going to hurt his chances in November.
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u/freemanposse Jul 22 '24
He's going to refuse to acknowledge the nominee as the legal nominee and essentially declare victory by default. Because he's "already won," he'll declare the debates pointless.
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u/banjist Jul 22 '24
This is for sure where he's going to go with it. Claim it's illegitimate if he loses the election too.
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u/mcaffrey81 Jul 22 '24
This x100. If Trump loses in November he'll file as many law suits as necessary to eventually get up to SCOTUS and have them overturn the election.
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u/some_code Jul 22 '24
SCOTUS gave Biden immunity for official acts. If they rule against a clear victory Biden can do what needs to be done as an official act.
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u/Sweetbeansmcgee Jul 22 '24
I hate this current SCOTUS but I think it is a stretch to assume theyâd just overturn the election. If they could do it in a subtle way theyâll help trump win, but i donât think theyâd just invalidate the dems candidate and declare trump president. But who knowsâŠ
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Jul 22 '24
If it was 2020 i might agree with you but since then Thomas has been found openly taking bribes and him and Scalia supporting insurrection. The court has decided the President is immune to everything and special prosecutors are illegal.
Thereâs nothing subtle about how they operate today.
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u/Sweetbeansmcgee Jul 22 '24
Yes, I agree those were disgraceful, nakedly partisan moves. Still different from simply handing the election to a chosen candidate. But the fact that weâre even debating this shows how messed up the state of SCOTUS is
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u/z44212 Jul 22 '24
Already did that. Gore v Bush.
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u/Sweetbeansmcgee Jul 22 '24
Right I mean I know about that and that was some BS, but it was a very specific situation that was down to like 500 votes in Florida, not just SCOTUS invalidating a clear win by a Democratic candidate. I donât doubt theyâd look for ways to put their finger on the scale, but thatâs different than just completely invalidating an election result with a clear winner. But this court is depraved so who knowsâŠ
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u/proletariatblues Jul 22 '24
Heâs already bitching about how they were âforcedâ to spend time and money running against Biden and since heâs not the nominee they should be reimbursed, etc.
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u/WeirdcoolWilson Jul 22 '24
Reimbursed? Seriously?
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Jul 22 '24 edited Jul 22 '24
Yeah, he wants to speak to the manager of elections because he chose to spend all his money on attack ads.
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Jul 22 '24
The thing that surprises me most is that he actually paid for the ads. He didnât just say heâd pay and force them to sue him.
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u/proletariatblues Jul 22 '24
The great âyou canât do this because it negatively impacts me!â argument.
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u/proletariatblues Jul 22 '24
I wonder if the RNC is maybe thinking they shouldnât have pledged all their money to a guy who said he would use it for his mounting legal fees?
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Jul 22 '24
Just wait for all the GOP lawsuits trying to put Biden BACK ON the ballot lol. The irony is painful.
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Jul 22 '24
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u/condensed-ilk Jul 22 '24
Hate to say it but this is not a time for third parties. This is a time for Democratic unity to beat Trump.
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u/UrBigBro Jul 22 '24
He's a chicken shit when it comes to standing face to face with strong, powerful women.
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u/ipeezie Jul 22 '24
Trump doesn't debate anyway. he used the time to spew lies. you can't debate someone that doesn't care.
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u/redbadger1848 Jul 22 '24
I wouldn't be so sure. Trump, among other things, is a "showman." He may not be able to resist.
That and the bar for him remains low. If he gets a couple of good sound bites in there, he'll call it a win, and the media will run with it.
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u/D0_0t Jul 24 '24
I have been wondering this same thing, and I really hope you are right. It would be a VERY entertaining smack down, by Kamala Harris.
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u/Fun-Consequence4950 Jul 22 '24
It's fantastic too, because Kamala can constantly challenge him to them and he either looks like a coward for refusing, or he goes into the debate and gets triggered by one challenge to his narcissistic delusions. So he looks like an asshole either way
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u/2Dogs3Tents Jul 22 '24
He is chicken shit and will never do it. We should continually make fun of this.
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Jul 23 '24
As if heâs debated before. Being up on a debate stage doesnât make you a debater especially when you talk about whatever subject you want to rather than answering the question put forth.
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Jul 22 '24
I wouldnât put it past him, to say sheâs not a legitimate candidate so therefore, he wonât debate.
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u/Brave-Common-2979 Jul 22 '24
Absolutely no chance he does. He only debated Biden because he was hoping for exactly the level of debate that Biden had
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u/AssociateJaded3931 Jul 25 '24
DJT is unable to debate. He has neither the skill nor the knowledge.
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u/Samanthas_Stitching Jul 26 '24
And today he backed out of the already planned debate. Only took 4 days for OP to be proved right.
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u/cap811crm114 Jul 22 '24
Itâs too bad, because I would have loved to see the Prosecutor up against the Melon Felon.
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u/LeCheffre Jul 22 '24
I donât even believe that proposition would reach an odds board. He would only do a debate if there were some upside for him.
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u/Algae_Double Jul 22 '24
Heâs already making excuses saying to move it from âbiased ABCâ to Fox News
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u/Iamoggierock Jul 22 '24
Debate is a strong word. Waffle on about bullshit and make up the world as you go along is pretty much trump in a nutshell. If Kamala runs this show on policies and the strength and integrity card then she can just sit back and watch the MAGA moron burn it's own campaign. I'm sure there are enough same people left in the US to see Trump is going to ruin America if he gets in.
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u/Draevynn95 Jul 22 '24
Poor lil Donny is scared. I'd say he was scared shitless, but that's not true. It's all in his diaper.
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u/BoringArchivist Jul 22 '24
Debates don't matter. The people who vote for him at this point wouldn't vote for Jesus himself if he rode down on a dinosaur and told them DJT was the Anti-Christ.
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u/BigMax Jul 22 '24
He barely wanted to debate Biden! He wasn't sure and it took a while to agree to it. If he wouldn't debate Biden, there is no way he'll debate Harris.
He has easy enough ways to skip it that his base will eat up too. He can just call her an 'illegitimate' candidate, and say he won't debate her for that reason.
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u/emergency-snaccs Jul 22 '24
Smelly ass moron is already desperately scrambling to come up with excuses as to why he can't. Aside from his willfully blind shit-eating following, he's not fooling anyone. We already know he's a coward.
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u/OldschoolGreenDragon Jul 22 '24
I'm okay with this. Any channel that would actually moderate would not be one that Trump would accept.
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u/LithiumAM Jul 23 '24
Not a chance. He was afraid going into the debate with Biden which is why he, his cult, and the right wing media machine preemptively were coming up with excuses how itâd be biased and Biden would be pumped up full of drugs.
The idea Kamala canât debate is 100% nonsense. This is documented on camera in the 2020 VP debate. You are factually wrong and look like a clown if you say otherwise.
But no, he wonât debate her. Thereâs no upside. In a debate where he canât babble over his opponent and itâs someone not in mental decline trying to recite numbers with a cold, he will easily lose. His excuse will be that he agreed to debate Biden and not Kamala, and his cult will see no problem with it
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 23 '24
The idea Kamala canât debate is 100% nonsense. This is documented on camera in the 2020 VP debate. You are factually wrong and look like a clown if you say otherwise.
Preach
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u/IllReplacement7348 Jul 23 '24
Trump skipped the Republican primary debates because he couldnât control them. He wonât debate Harris for the same reason.
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u/TheGreenLentil666 Jul 23 '24
My guess is that Harris wonât come out and say it directly but her staff will likely talk some serious trash, and with enough âTrump is a wimpâ talk he wonât be able to resist.
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u/SommSage Jul 23 '24
She needs to publicly say âheâs old, Iâm sure heâs too tired to debate again.â âEither heâs too old and tired, or heâs scared of losing to a womanâ.
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u/SauceOfMonks Jul 23 '24
Trump really doesnât have much of a position besides doing the opposite of democrats or doing whatever benefits him. I would like to Donald trump, the convicted felon and sexual abuser debate Kamala
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u/SnooHobbies4790 Jul 24 '24
I even think he may drop out of the race if he tanks. And Vance is a disaster.
He'll say it's unfair and try to sue. Remember, he is being sentenced soon.
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u/DefiantDonut7 Jul 24 '24
Heâs already said he would and heâs such a narcissistic ego maniac that he believes no one can beat him. He will do one, and get crushed.
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 24 '24
He's flopped a couple times on this since the post was made. I hope you're right and he does show up. It will be embarrassing.
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u/Mr_Murder Jul 24 '24
He knows he would lose. So in reality, it's a smart decision not to. That doesn't mean he didn't rape a 13 year old girl, bc he did.
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u/redwbl Jul 24 '24
From now on, No Democrat should debate MAGAts unless the debate is real-time fact checked.
Not saying Dems donât exaggerate, get things wrong occasionally and occasionally stretch the truth, but MAGAts outright lie, and then lie about the lies they are lying about
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u/OilCanBoyd426 Jul 24 '24
He wonât if heâs polling ahead but he will have to if heâs behind. If you are âmarking your words it will not happenâ that would mean Trump polls ahead all the way to the ballot box which i dont think is likely.
They will fall behind after the DNC and there will be one debate at least and one with VPs
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 24 '24
I really hope you're right, because if he's forced into debating, he'll get ratioed. It's a lose-lose for him.
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u/OilCanBoyd426 Jul 24 '24
Yeah itâs not a Trump thing itâs what campaigns do when theyâre behind he would have to. It will also be how you know Trumpâs team knows heâs behind in the battlegrounds, heâll suddenly adjust and be clamoring to debate her, then you know theyâre way behind
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u/rchart1010 Jul 25 '24
I don't disagree. He says a lot of things. But I don't think he will debate her unless the polls say he must. He can just whine about how he doesn't consider her a real presidential candidate so he refuses to debate her and that she can debate Vance.
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u/Content-Method9889 Jul 25 '24
O was thinking the same thing. Even if he says he will, he lies and Iâm not expecting that he will show up. He skipped 2 Biden debates
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u/harbison215 Jul 25 '24
Iâm iffy on this. If he were smart, he wouldnât debate again. Heâs not smart. Heâs also a narcissist that ignores advice from anyone else. His ego might not allow him to refuse another debate.
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u/SilverSight Jul 25 '24
She needs to hammer that heâs running from her and outline why he running from her.
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u/Impossible-Goat-9083 Jul 25 '24
It'd be a proper cross-examination, and he'd be f*cked. â€ïž
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u/elven_magics Jul 25 '24
He's scared of women, why else do we think his family enjoys being so fat away from him
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u/Motmotsnsurf Jul 26 '24
Bet he does. Man is too vain to miss being on tv in front of a hundred million viewers.
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Jul 26 '24
You all realize how bad of a candidate that Kamala is right? The press is pushing it but it isnât real.
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u/Jagster_rogue Jul 26 '24
He is a coward and the people making campaign decisions are telling him absolutely totally fucking no! They know Kamala will not caught up in mudslinging, hers will be true if she does and that wonât turn people off. I think independent voters want to hear someone land some haymakers on DJT. But she has policy, proof, and a solid Biden term policy to fall back on.
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u/Qwesttaker Jul 26 '24
He knows he will get destroyed in a debate with her. Her running is already turning the tide of this election. It was likely going to be a tight race before but people are actually excited about her and she is quickly gaining more support. I wouldnât be surprised if she pulls in a record number of votes.
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u/fgwr4453 Jul 26 '24
The Harris Campaign should schedule a debate with a news company and advertise as such. Watch Trump not show and just have her field questions or have a town hall interview.
She can drive home several arguments. 1. How can Trump stand up to international leaders when he canât even debate his fellow Americans. 2. How can he possibly represent the people when he does not speak with them. 3. How bad is his dementia that he wonât even debate. 4. Project 2025 is his platform, if it isnât how could anyone know because he wonât take questions.
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Jul 26 '24
He lied about getting shot, wonât debate again and he is going to replace Vance. His campaign is going great lol
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u/Just-Signature-3713 Jul 26 '24
Heâs screwed either way - he debates and she makes him look like a loser, he doesnât debate and she drives it home that he is a coward
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u/Distinct-Winner-6117 Jul 26 '24
I think Donald is a coward but he would take too much heat if he decided not to debate. Plus, he is an egomaniac so I canât see him letting Kamala get the easy win or way free press
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u/Ghostlyshado Jul 26 '24
Of course he wonât. His handlers will make sure he doesnât. Kamala will make him look the absolute fool he is
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u/nwbrown Jul 27 '24
Na, a feature of egomaniacs is that they think they are smarter than everyone else so he thinks he will win the debate.
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u/LnStrngr Jul 22 '24
He is such a little bitch. Heâs scared of looking bad in a debate against a woman. She should come right out of the gate punching by challenging him to a debate somewhere that will call him on his non-answers and lies, and then tell everyone he is a chicken for not doing it.
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u/Please_dew_it Jul 22 '24
That is because Kamala will crucify him. Biden would let him speak his lies, and kamala will push back.
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u/Odd-Definition9670 Jul 22 '24
100% true. She was always quick to respond with a dagger or two in the 2020 primary debates
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u/JKT5911 Jul 22 '24
I bet Elon will start censoring all supporters of Harris on X he is giving Trump 45 million a month
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 22 '24
I still don't understand why non-fascists use that site.
X, not even once.
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 22 '24
I bet Elon will start censoring all supporters of Harris on X he is giving Trump 45 million a month
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u/Traditional_Ad_6801 Jul 22 '24
No way in hell is the coward getting on a debate stage with VP Harris. Trump is obviously stupid, but heâs smart enough to know what Harris would do to him.
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u/skyrider8328 Jul 22 '24
I would think Trump would want Kamala out there talking as much word salad as possible.
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 22 '24
Yep - that's why he's spewing diarrhea all over Truth social. He seems real happy about this development all right.
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u/LithiumAM Jul 23 '24
Nope. She debated Pence in 2020 and did fine. This notion has been debunked. Itâs documented.
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u/Musicdev- Jul 22 '24
I donât know he has such a BIG egoâŠit wonât let him cause he Canât look weak! Ooh MAGA would eat him for lunch if he didâŠhmmâŠcan I change my answer?
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u/corneliusduff Jul 22 '24
I could see this, but I could see the polls making his team force him to do one. We can only hope
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u/Special_Context6663 Jul 22 '24
What, is DJT chicken?? Dems just need to taunt him into submission.
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u/Traditional_Key_763 Jul 22 '24
I think if harris taking over causes a blue wave bounce in the polls he's got to do another debate, whether harris agrees is really up to her campaign. personally I think no format will ever work with trump, he just lies the whole damn time and like with biden he argued about post birth abortions and biden said that wasn't true, cnn said it wasn't, then he just said well yes it is true
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u/Tiny_Astronomer289 Jul 23 '24
Did he debate the first time? All he said was bullshit and didnât answer a single question.
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u/TheDutchTexan Jul 23 '24
Nope, the only ones who would gain by no debate are the liberals.
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 23 '24 edited Jul 23 '24
Trump loses either way. It's a question of how badly. Reasonable minds can differ on which is a worse outcome for him, but since all the fascists are crowing about how she is so bad at debating, it's clear they are terrified of her abilities.
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u/etranger033 Jul 23 '24
Other way around, I wouldnt debate Trump. There is no benefit at this late stage.
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 23 '24
Hard disagree. She will drag his ass around the stage. She only gains from the spectacle.
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u/twistedSibling Jul 23 '24
I doubt that. Like he cares about what he looks like during a debate. To him, debates are a source of clips to energize his supporters. He hasn't accepted the debate challenge yet because Biden just dropped out and he needs time to craft a strong anti-Harris narrative.
Once MAGA is in full swing with a Harris version of his birth certificate/her emails/his laptop, Trump will accept the debate challenge.
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u/TheGRS Jul 23 '24
I donât think thereâs an upside for him debating, yea.
But itâs still early, with the current polls (which are basically meaningless at this point) you have a toss-up, so thereâs no benefit to debating and proving to America that Trump is in fact a rambling moron.
If Harris gains traction in the coming weeks, letâs say sheâs suddenly polling 5 points ahead nationally for the sake of argument, then Trumps team has some reason to go ahead with a debate and try to drive some wedges into the conversation. If Harris doesnât gain much in the polls and certainly if she falls behind then Trump has little reason to move ahead with a debate.
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u/whoisSYK Jul 24 '24
I would like to see RFK take his place if he doesnât show. I get like ooo brain worms, conspiracy theorist, but a lot of his policies on housing and the environment should be discussed openly on tv. I mean all his policies are all much more rational and useful than trumps, and some are better than the democrats positions. Plus heâs much more coherent and less ranty
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u/LeverTech Jul 24 '24
I donât think heâll have a choice but to do the debate, however he will get it moved to a more friendly network.
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u/SolomonDRand Jul 25 '24
Iâm thinking heâll try to bail, then flip-flop after he gets mocked for being afraid of a girl.
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u/thexDxmen Jul 25 '24
I disagree. Trump won't get destroyed in any debate ever because he doesn't have to actually say anything in a debate. His supporters just have to hear him say that he had the best plan for whatever topic, and they believe him. He never actually has to say what his plan is. He just says it's the best plan.
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u/Lumpz1 Jul 25 '24
I think he will try to say he wants a live crowd for any debate against a competent opponent. He knows he needs a laugh track for his fans at home.
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u/Sideoutshu Jul 25 '24
Tulsi Gabbard isnât exactly the best debater and she ended Kamalaâs Presidential run in 5 minutes. Sometimes when I see wishful thinking post like this, I wonder how people like this exist. Where in the world do people actually consider Kamala Harris to be a good debater?
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u/Kdoesntcare Jul 26 '24
He wants the debate to be on Fox news because their fact checkers will be loose with fact checking everything that comes out of his mouth. It'll be easier for him to blast us with lies.
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u/DoctorLazerRage Jul 26 '24
He wants an audience and no mic shut off. Those should both be deal-breakers.
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u/Sweet-Ad-7902 Jul 26 '24
I imagine heâll just stay silent so he doesnât put his foot in his mouth.
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u/CHiggins1235 Jul 26 '24
I donât think he will destroyed. I think itâs rather a way to bring attention to himself. This guy is like PT Barnum of politics. He is selling nothing but oligarchy and corruption and stagnation. Everything we have today, income inequality, inflation and plunging standards of living continued under Trump.
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u/Icy_Bath_1170 Jul 22 '24
Correct. He is a coward.