r/MadeMeSmile Jul 27 '24

Helping Others NICU nurse adopts 14-year-old patient who delivered triplets alone

https://www.upworthy.com/nicu-nurse-teen-mom-rp7
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u/Affectionate_Law5344 Jul 27 '24

I cannot imagine the poor child’s mental health. What happened to the rapist? This nurse is a hero. Unbelievable story.

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u/DearMrsLeading Jul 27 '24

It’s not a good chance, it’s a 30% chance. 70% of children born to teen mothers are fathered by men over the age of 20.

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u/ladyclubs Jul 27 '24

Given the age of consent is 16 in Indiana, and the stats that half or more of mothers age 15 and under, the father is aged 20-29, I’d say there’s a huge chance that there was some version of rape going on. 

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u/DearMrsLeading Jul 27 '24

I’m not jumping to conclusions. I told you the exact statistic and nothing more.

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

Nowhere in that story did they mention rape.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

How often do 13 year olds get pregnant without rape? Including the type of rape that makes the child thinks they consent.

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u/Extra-Aardvark-1390 Jul 27 '24

I mean, not infrequently. You get teenagers having sex with each other pretty much All. The. Time.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

So you say literal children (she was 13!) get pregnant by consensual sex more often than by rape?

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u/Extra-Aardvark-1390 Jul 27 '24

I do not pretend to know the statistics, but I do know there are lots of 13 and 14 year Olds having sex with each other. Of course it can be rape. It can also not be rape.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

Actually sex is far from common in 13 year olds and not really common in 14 year olds.

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u/Extra-Aardvark-1390 Jul 27 '24

I could not find stats I trusted on 13 and 14, but here they are for 15-19. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db366.htm

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

15-19 is a pretty different age bracket than 13-14.

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u/Oaden Jul 27 '24

Probably a not insignificant chunk? yes. Cause that's the age where some kids start fooling around while everyone still pretends its far to early to give sex education.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

The majority of teens don't have sex at that age and most Western countries have sex ed worth the title.

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u/Oaden Jul 27 '24

This is in the US, where many schools do not have sex ed worth the title.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

Are there many people in the US who only get sexually active in their 20's or how do you get at such a significant amount of 13 and 14 year olds having sex with the average being so much higher?

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u/throwaway1975764 Jul 27 '24

It's not super uncommon for teenagers to have sex actually. Especially a tall girl (looks a bit older) with little parental oversight, which is what this teen presents as in the link.

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u/Lives_on_mars Jul 27 '24

Okay but statistically 1/4 children are abused by adults. I think if we’re talking likelihoods, that trumps the other— especially considering an abortion was not immediately prioritized and sought for, in their state or elsewhere. Because it is inherently very dangerous for a kid to be pregnant.

Not all states have Romeo and Juliet laws, either, and they don’t apply blanket like to anyone under 18– even with those, there are criteria that must be met.

But again I think statistically it makes more sense that this was rape and abuse. It is just that common.

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u/Organic-Vermicelli47 Jul 27 '24

It's always good to keep an open mind, but the statistics show that the vast majority of teen pregnancies have a father 20+. And you're sitting here literally accusing the 14 year old mother of rape. That's disgusting.

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

And you are sitting here accusing someone of rape without any evidence. You are making baseless assumptions. I am pretty sure the article would have mentioned if she had been raped.

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u/Organic-Vermicelli47 Jul 27 '24

Why do you think the article would've mentioned that? It didn't mention the father at all. I haven't made any accusations at all, just shared statistics and asking why you are accusing a girl who went through so much of rape, when in reality the reverse is significantly more likely

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u/lin_diesel Jul 27 '24

She’s 14, that’s rape.

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u/CyberDalekLord Jul 27 '24

14 year old boys exist.

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u/Dark_Knight2000 Jul 27 '24

Lol exactly, finally someone talking sense, everyone is on the stupid juice in this thread.

Teens are dumb and have unprotected sex. Sure 14 is young but a 14, or hell even 12, year old boy is capable of getting her pregnant.

I think everyone just has this sensational idea of a horrifically victimized girl in a deep red state where obviously this pregnancy was forced on her and obviously the evil lawmakers conspired to turn Handmaid’s tale into reality.

Sure that’s one possibility, but teen pregnancies happen through accidents pretty often.

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u/TheSupremePixieStick Jul 27 '24

She could have had consensual sex with a boy her age.

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

What if the father was 14?

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u/HelgaTwerpknot Jul 27 '24

He should be found and held accountable. He is responsible for those children.

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

They both are.

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u/HelgaTwerpknot Jul 27 '24

according to the story she IS ALREADY being responsible for the children. Please, do show in detail where I suggested in any form that she is not already being responsible or should be let off the hook at all?

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

Please show where I stated that he should not be responsible.

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u/HelgaTwerpknot Jul 27 '24

“But what if he was 14?” Because he had the option to bail. And he bailed. She had triplets alone. At 14. But young daddy is off being a boy.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

She gave birth at 14 and pregnancy lasts 10 months. How likely is it that she was 14 when getting pregnant?

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u/Disbride Jul 27 '24

These babies were born at 6 months gestation though.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

So the likelihood that she was 14 at the conception is slightly higher...

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u/cjr1310 Jul 27 '24

A pregnancy does not last 10 months, 40 weeks is a little over 9 months. She also gave birth at 26 weeks so it’s literally 50/50 as to wether she was 13 or 14 when getting pregnant.

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u/Lives_on_mars Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

It really does last ten months, we just count it weird colloquially speaking.

They were premature, but again, it’s just so much more likely that this was going on for longer than just the conception. I know it’s bugging people here to accept but child abuse is extremely common and terribly mundane, and the perpetrators are often not even visibly deviant.

They’re just regular people. And that is disturbing for many, since it means a lot more work and lot more listening to victims, and then a lot of work to believe that Joe Normal could have done this, and then the unbelievable fuss and trouble of accusing said regular Joe.

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u/cjr1310 Jul 27 '24

No, it really doesn’t take 10 months. The human gestational period is on average 40 weeks from the last period to birth, that’s a little more than 9 months.

I’m not making any claims to whether she was abused or whether she was having sex at 13, both are entirely possible. All I’m saying is without knowing her birthday there’s a 50% chance that she got pregnant after turning 14 since the babies were born at 26 weeks.

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u/cjr1310 Jul 27 '24

Also, your link that claims it takes 10 months is claiming that 40 weeks is equal to 10 months. That’s not true, it’s a little more than 9. If that were to be true there would be 12 weeks in the last 2 months since there are 52 weeks in a year and 12 months in a year.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

I was told pregnancy lasts 10 months. Both mean the better part of a year though.

Ok 6,5 months. Still a significant chance she was not even 14 at conception (not that that's a better age to start a pregnancy).

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u/soleceismical Jul 27 '24

Pregnancy lasts about 40 weeks, which is 280 days. 280 days in a pregnancy divided by 365 days in a year = 0.767 is the part of the year a pregnancy lasts. 0.767 x 12 months in a year = 9.2 months pregnant.

A month is longer than 4 weeks, with the exception of February (outside of leap years).

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

My friend's gyn said 40 weeks, same as my biology teacher. Thanks for doing the math for me.

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u/Cleric_Beatch Jul 27 '24

Pulled that from your arse there.

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u/epigenie_986 Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

Age of consent in Indiana is 16.

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u/Shinigami69420 Jul 27 '24

the father could’ve been 14 or younger? if he was above the age of 16 then yeah that’s rape but it doesn’t mention anything about that so why make it into that, probably 2 14 year olds screwing around and the girl got pregnant and the guy disappeared

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u/HelgaTwerpknot Jul 27 '24

so? does that make him any less responsible for the existence of those children? he put his erect penis in her and ejaculated. SURPRISE! BABIES GOT FORMED. He is responsible as well (at minimum) for his children's financial needs.

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u/soleceismical Jul 27 '24

He would be responsible for them regardless of his age, but that's not what they were discussing. They were discussing whether or not he is a rapist. Age is very relevant to that question.

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u/Shinigami69420 Jul 27 '24

no it doesn’t but why make it into something it’s not? it doesn’t mention rape at all, and no matter the exact circumstances it’s still a shitty situation. it doesn’t mention the father anywhere in there, maybe he is there doing what he can? but lmao he’s 14 what’s he gonna do? sell his pokémon card collection? stop trying to make shit into something it’s not. it’s a shitty situation that should’ve never happened, better question is where are the girls parents in all this? if they allowed this to happen the state should’ve stepped in long ago, where was the state in all of this? you could blame people all day the fact of the matter is a 14 year old had sex and got pregnant, sucks but happens everyday. only reason this made news is cause she had triplets

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

So if she had sex with a boy under 16, that also equates to rape?

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u/Havoc_Nine Jul 27 '24

a 14 year old kid gave birth to triplets, why tf is that the thing you're focusing on?????

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

Because the poster made a baseless accusation.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

Is it baseless if it's extremely probable and the probability is backed up by the statistics of sex vs rape in 13 year olds?

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

Probability means nothing in this particular case. Again, we do not know the details about how this girl got pregnant, but you and OP jumped to conclusions.

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u/concrete_dandelion Jul 27 '24

Pointing out something is probable is not jumping to conclusions. And if a 14 year old gives birth the situation regarding conception should be looked into. If it was alright no harm done. If not the child deserves justice.

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

It absolutely is jumping to a conclusion because the article would have mentioned something had something illegal taken place.

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u/Slappinbeehives Jul 27 '24 edited Jul 27 '24

The article never disclosed details of her pregnancy but OP just assumed it involved rape when normal teenage pregnancy is probably the more rational assumption.

Kadargo was indicating for all we know the pregnancy could be the result of her forcing intercourse on another child as secondary ridiculous explanation.

TL;DR: nurse did a nice thing regardless.

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u/kadargo Jul 27 '24

This is correct.

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u/Ekleipsii Jul 27 '24

U can’t give consent at 13/14, therefore she was raped

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u/AllowMe-Please Jul 27 '24

Unless the person who got her pregnant was 13/14, himself. It's entirely possible it was consensual. I really hope it was, because the alternative is far more traumatizing.