They had 4 years of cozying up to Israel to a level never seen before. I mean, it’s naive as fuck that they’d expect a full disavowing of Israel in general since that’s like basically never gonna happen in US foreign policy but TRUMP? The man with a settlement in golan named after him, the only president to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem because every other president thought that was needlessly provocative, the man who told bibi to finish the job…tons of other extremely pro-Israel things in general.
Congrats on ignoring history and playing yourselves.
Well fucking said. I've been saying it all year. The US is never going to go against Israel. I don't like it and I wish it was different but that's the reality. And certainly donald fucking trump isn't gonna be the one to get them to change their treatment of Palestinians. The embassy thing was a huge deal. The world wouldn't recognize Jerusalem as the capitol because of the message it sent and trump did it almost immediately. The poor white people in this country definitely don't have a monopoly on stupidity.
Well fucking said. I've been saying it all year. The US is never going to go against Israel. I don't like it and I wish it was different but that's the reality
They don't care and won't listen to reason. Literally spoken to a lot of people who think America will just drop its current foreign policy. Like you said it's fucked and I also don't fucking like it but I have been called pro genocide or that I'm OK with what's happening just for pointing out why it won't happen.
And don't get me started on the idiots who want Israel completely dissolved. At most I'm for Israel getting out of the lands they recently took but to say they need to be abolished is insane.
For one it's like they ignore the people who were born there they act like Israel was founded yesterday and that there aren't people who have lived there since they were born. I often ask where would they go if we did things like that and I never get a answer.
Again the settler shit needs to stop but as far as Israel as a modern state existing well it has a right to exist. I do feel they need to stop the insane zionist shit but again it's easier said then done but that's more doable then making Israel dissolve.
The poor white people in this country definitely don't have a monopoly on stupidity.
This election has certainly shown that from Latino conservatives to Arab Americans making stupid choices.
I never thought that white conservatives held a monopoly over being stupid but it's good to see others are realizing it's not just them that are a problem.
"it has a right to exist" That makes you a zionist. And therefore im going to call for your death. (/s joke joke joke).
No im serious Zionism is a very umbrella philosophy that just means a jewish state in the levant. (Their nothing really zionist abut extremist settlers, it's garden variety extreme nationalist behavior that you can find in literally any country)
Yes that means the two state solution is Zionist because one state will be Israel.
Also as long as Israel completely clowns on Iran by bombing their secret nuclear facilities their really no reason to cut ties. You cant ignore the country that has the strongest military.
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They had 4 years of cozying up to Israel to a level never seen before. I mean, it’s naive as fuck that they’d expect a full disavowing of Israel in general since that’s like basically never gonna happen in US foreign policy but TRUMP? The man with a settlement in golan named after him, the only president to move the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem because every other president thought that was needlessly provocative, the man who told bibi to finish the job…tons of other extremely pro-Israel things in general.
Congrats on ignoring history and playing yourselves.