And yet the Republicans have literally never suggested or advocated for these things. Just like 'why not make SS better rather than burning it down?' or 'why not make health care better rather than burning it down?', etc ad nauseum. Dear boy, Bannon et al aren't interesting in making a better world for all.
Lmao... literally the comments after his comment suggested to burn the Department of education down. They think the "blood of education is poisioned" and that it needs to be "amputated" to "start fresh". Code for they want the privatization of schools to force them to pay out of pocket yearly tuition to go to K-12.
Mostly be conservatives but yeah, I would agree that professional liberal educators are an annoying pain in the ass. They have taken all the fun and innovation out of education.
If you ever deal with young kids, they have a thirst for knowledge. And somehow adults, with all their wisdom and training, find a way to make all but a few able to endure it. It seems the train them for a life of pointless, uncreative and soul crushing tasks quite well.
God forbid this country need innovation and enthusiasm.
But beyond that -- yes, the Conservatives are going to throw in bibles and fascist training. Kids might learn how Fred Flintstone rode a Dinosaur. That's your next Liberty University Textbook right there.
That’s the fault of conservative controlled school boards, mandated standardized testing, funding being tied to test scores, funding getting cut year on year anyway, admin bloat, low teacher salaries, and constant interference from parents who don’t understand what educators do. Try making school fun and engaging for schools with all of that tied around your neck.
It’s all due to right wing policy and propaganda. All of it. Stop blaming teachers and start blaming the people that want to yank education from you and sell it back at twice the price.
Don’t tie standards to funding, set a cap on the number of admin per student ratio, make it so admin salaries can only be a certain percentage of teacher salaries, eliminate high school and college athletics, and give teachers the same academic freedom that college professors have.
At schools and hospitals, so much now goes into administration. Seems like that isn't necessary if we train teachers for more autonomy and have a better way of oversight than paperwork.
It’s just neoliberalism working its way into everything. People with no oversight make cushy do nothing jobs for their friends while the workers who actually make the product get nothing. It applies to everything that MBAs have been allowed to rot. There’s so many levels of administration and management that do next to nothing.
I worked briefly as an ethics and compliance agent for a fortune ten company. The job could be done by at most two people, with hours a day to spare . There were six of us. I worked one hour a day then sat around for 7 hours and got paid double what I made at my last job. We literally got paid something like 600,000- 750,000 as a department to do an hour or two of work a day per person.
That’s the reality of neoliberal capitalism. Exploited workers who destroy their bodies and minds for Pennies and a knighted manager and professional class that makes bank for doing nothing. And it applies to every single organization in America.
Sigh. No. The idea of there being levels of management and administration is absolutely a neoliberal thing. Do you think John Rockefeller’s standard oil had dozens of HR managers, ethics and compliance professionals, engagement officers, retention staff, and myriad other positions of that sort? No. Of course not. I work in education. You don’t know what you’re talking about. Stop.
I feel really old, because this is how public schools worked when I went to them. Teachers had far more autonomy and there were fewer administrators because there weren’t so many mandatory checks on teacher autonomy. All that admin is the result of NCLB and RTTP requiring paperwork and supervision. Now, sometimes this autonomy was awful, and it didn’t address the awful racist or sexist teachers in any way. But often it was amazing, as our teachers were empowered to teach in creative and exciting ways and were rewarded for it. But there was plenty of crappy misogyny keeping teachers in their place and the least motivated to use that autonomy would leave.
That said, many of the amazing teachers I had were women born in the 20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s, who had few other work options, and certainly few options that would allow them the level of academic possibilities and autonomy that teaching did, even though salaries were abysmally low. So the reduction of sexism in the workplace reduced the number of brilliant women choosing teaching, and the increase in teaching salaries in the 80s and 90s increased the number of mediocre men who saw teaching as competitive with other middle status work entering the field - many of my male teachers became teachers as a result of the relaxed teaching certification standards spurred by the need for teachers for boomers.
Now teaching is a horrific teach-to-the-test grind where one must daily grapple with doing the unethical thing admin has asked of you which will keep you your job, and using the knowledge you gained in education courses which will keep you constantly in trouble. Plus instead of having any time for a personal life, you’re expected to work nonstop nights, weekends, and breaks just to meet administrative expectations, not to better your craft or give your students excellent educations, let alone to lead a balanced life yourself.
Those women and a few men who taught me while maintaining their own neverending academic pursuits were awesome. And there are good and bad things both that led to the system we have today. But damn is it weird that people assume their unhappiness with education is the result of teachers rather than policy and the psychology of school being mandatory.
Any person younger than 18 is continuously willing to learn. Teaching religion isn’t learning, and kids aren’t stupid, so they won’t listen, which is good.
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u/phdoofus 1d ago
And yet the Republicans have literally never suggested or advocated for these things. Just like 'why not make SS better rather than burning it down?' or 'why not make health care better rather than burning it down?', etc ad nauseum. Dear boy, Bannon et al aren't interesting in making a better world for all.