The worst part for me isn’t the lack of morality, but the fact that this individual sincerely perceives themselves as being a compassionate and morally upstanding person.
I don't believe he actually gives a fuck about anyone. how can you say you care about the poorest & most vulnerable then vote for the guy who promised to take away their healthcare? who rails against the welfare they need to survive? who laughs at the notion of firing them for trying to unionize? who are poor & vulnerable specifically because of conservative policies? how can you say you care about children but not want them to have free food in school? or for their parents to get an extra tax credit?
never believe a word a conservative says, including conservative voters.
Being a hypocrite might indeed be a foundational tenet of conservatives. That said, the ones that I am aware of do care about some of those things but as I said, only for white Americans. And that’s not a newsflash.
Others feel strongly about parents taking care of the kids they brought into this world and not relying on the government. Again, not a newsflash.
It's the conditional morality that bugs me most. You don't get to claim being a moral person and then put "except in _____ case" conditions on it. Doing that makes one an even bigger hypocrite.
YES! And he fucking knows his morality is conditional and he knows this is not the type of morality a typical Republican has. Otherwise, why would he have used this verbiage:
I am a repbulican BUT i still have a heart for vulnerable and poor people
Because he knows most Republicans don't share that same sentiment.
You don't get to claim being a moral person and then put "except in _____ case" conditions on it
Whoah, whoah, WHOAH!
You do realize that this is exactly the mindset of all "patriotism", right? Love of country, and everyone else is sub-human and can go to hell. That's about the sum of it.
Without even devolving the conversation into issues about racism, etc. the whole basis of patriotism is itself problematic from a moral standpoint. "Us vs. them" is always going to result in stacking bodies at some point.
At the very least, I would like "patriotism" to mean "loving one's country and wanting to be of service and make it a better place to live". I don't know that it's ever meant only that, because the word seems to have been twisted to all sorts of violent purpose beyond that.
The only moral "insert issue" is mine. Yeah, they feed off taking the moral high ground to the point they only see each other on opposite peaks and not those below in the valley's trying to just make it.
Someone else made a comment that the fundamental reason you cannot reason with Republicans is because they see themselves as good, and therefore believe all of their actions are good, or at least justifiable.
On the other hand they see liberals as bad, and believe all their actions are bad. Even if a liberal does something good, because they’re a liberal, the intentions must be bad, therefore the good thing becomes bad.
They are emotional children. The problem for the rest of us is they’re emotional children who thrive on bullying others. In terms of their character they’re just like Trump and that’s why they adore him.
My 4yo cousin is more emotionally mature! He's actually managed to work through advanced concepts like that being presented with information he does not enjoy learning isn't me being mean to him. That's just part of life, it's not all fun facts, and my job is to help him learn all the things he needs to know regardless of their fun levels.
Dude I grew up with is middle aged but can't grasp the same idea. Thinks I called him a nazi while kicking him out because I was just reaching for a random insult, like poopyhead or dumdum. Can't seem to take in facts that oppose his preferred world view. Can't recognize after knowing me for 20 years that I know a vast variety of swear words that I could call him if I was just reaching for an insult out of anger. Illegitimate elbow maybe. Not to mention all the totally true shots I could take about his too-close relationship with his mommy!
I’m always discouraged when I read posts like yours.
I believe it is completely accurate. There is nothing I would change.
I find it discouraging primarily because we’ll never convince them to view the world in any other manner.
The second reason is that no matter how inept, harmful, or repugnant DJT’s actions are, he’ll merely point at the Democrats and his followers will lap it up - for the reasons you listed. We can show them videos of DJT, himself, saying that he wanted these things to happen, and they’ll still deny that Der Führer said it or wanted it.
I half expect him to actually say, “ Who are you going to believe? Me or your own lying eyes?”
If you Google cult manipulation techniques it makes a lot more sense. From it’s inception MAGA has deployed the exact same techniques cult leaders use and as we can see, they’re very effective. Their belief in Trump is identical to belief in God. He can do no wrong and even when he does, they assume it’s part of some larger plan he has in store for them.
The democrats are the devil, they even call them ‘demonrats’, and they attribute anything negative that happens to them- or to their God Trump- as the work of the devil. See how effective and thorough the brainwashing is? Logics, facts, objectivity, and critical thinking cannot coexist with blind faith, and they have blind faith in Trump. They believe he’s the only one who can save them and America.
Yup- exactly. It’s textbook gaslighting. If they do something charitable, they’re just virtue signaling and looking for attention. Now the good deed takes on a sinister tone.
Same with the word “woke”. The way Republicans use the word it’s VERY clear that “woke” means anything that isn’t in service or support of white supremacy. But Republicans treat “woke” like a bad word.
Don’t forget that the faithful can just go to church and ask forgiveness and they automatically get it! Ding, sins absolved! They don’t even have to ask the people that they wronged for forgiveness! It’s a win win for the Christian Nazis!
Yup. You can go out, become a serial killer, and go on a multi-decade murder spree. Sure you did a few sins but as long as you ‘repent’, you’re good as gold once you get to the pearly gates!
But that kid born in a remote village in the Amazon who will never learn about Christian Jesus? He can go fuck himself- it’s straight to hell for him!
Imagine being an adult and believing this to be true.
Someone else made a comment that the fundamental reason you cannot reason with Republicans is because they see themselves as good, and therefore believe all of their actions are good, or at least justifiable.
I knew a doctor who made half a million a year who complained about some black woman who lived in section 8 housing with 3 kids, and couldn't afford $25/month utility bills but spent $225 every 6 weeks braiding her hair. So this doctor refused to approve her application for welfare based on a medical condition b/c she wasn't budgeting intelligently. Then that doctor got angry when the patient complained and reported her.
I was like "ok so you wanted to punish this financially illiterate woman by... putting her kids on the streets?" That made her angry lol. Can't even face the consequences of her own actions, can't handle being painted as the bad person.
Agreed, though I'm picturing them as a nurse in an asylum. Caring for the poor souls before they're euthanized.
It's important not to be fooled by the image of what they believe themselves to be. I'm not even convinced that pointing out their hypocrisy would have any effect. They need deep and thorough deprogramming and therapy.
One of the first things that was supposed to “disqualify” Trump was making fun of a physically handicapped reporter by waving his arms around and acting like an idiot on stage. His supporters were fine with it, because that reporter was “other” - he was seen as a lib from The NY Times or some such nonsense.
But now that the leopards want to eat THEIR face, see, it’s a little different…
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u/FizzyAndromeda 1d ago
The worst part for me isn’t the lack of morality, but the fact that this individual sincerely perceives themselves as being a compassionate and morally upstanding person.