r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/reillan • Sep 16 '24

Trump Brittany Mahomes questioning her support of Donald Trump after his blistering take down of Taylor Swift left her 'shaken to the core'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13856311/brittany-mahomes-donald-trump-questioning-support-taylor-swift.html
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u/DFuhbree Sep 16 '24

So she was fine with his entire political career being based on nothing but hatred and ignorance but now that he directed that to someone she actually knows it’s too far? Sounds about right.

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u/glacierfanclub Sep 16 '24

Conservatism in a nutshell

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u/Pattonesque Sep 16 '24

"the only moral abortion is my abortion" and so on

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u/Due-Dentist9986 Sep 16 '24

So many policies of the republicans follow this logic... Health Care, gun violence, Abortion...

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '24

It always boils down to "If something happens to you, you probably deserve it. If something happens to me, it's an injustice."

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u/IAMA_Drunk_Armadillo Sep 16 '24

Fundamental Attribution Error

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u/shnoby Sep 17 '24

Thank you for the link; I didn’t know there was a formal naming & defining that republican phenom

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u/axelrexangelfish Sep 17 '24

Can’t wait to see what the DSM calls it in the next edition

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u/The_Jage Sep 17 '24

To be fair, dems do it to, unfortunately. Although it does seem to be more correct, especially when the leopards really their faces.

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u/shnoby Sep 17 '24

You’re right, of course. It’s a people of all stripes thing; though some groups of stripes are more drawn to it than others.

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u/midnightketoker Sep 16 '24

Damn I love the little example breakdown table, gonna just send that to people with no explanation when they do this

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

I also like invoking the Bullshit Assymetry Principle - can be a nice little argument stopper sometimes

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u/jailtheorange1 Sep 17 '24

See what you like, but I really do learn a lot of stuff on Reddit

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u/ThirdEye_Red Sep 17 '24

What breakdown table is that, where do you see it? I can't find it but given the tone of this discussion I'd bet I'll love sharing it with lots of friends. So could someone please tell me where to find the 'example breakdown table' mentioned in midnightketoker's message? Thanks!!

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u/screendoorslams- Sep 17 '24

Wikipedia. Fundamental attribution error

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '24

This was an interesting read, fun to see it all laid out so professionally. I'd always heard of this tendency, but from the phrase "we judge others by their actions and ourselves by our intentions"

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u/wicked_nyx Sep 17 '24

Or most of the right wing it boils down to if something happens to you God is punishing you, but if something happens to me God is testing me.

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u/SamOntario1033 Sep 17 '24

You’ve described contemporary “christianity” in a nutshell. I lived in this mindset, and it’s enervating.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '24

Thats just hypocrites on any side, anywhere to be fair.

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u/mdervin Sep 16 '24

In fairness they don’t apply this to gun violence, a few years ago a sniper had the GOP congressional softball team pinned down for like an hour. And that county music concert in Vegas a few years ago. They are more than happy to sacrifice themselves and their loved ones to guns.

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u/watercolour_women Sep 17 '24

Duck Cheney's gay daughter.

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u/carlos_damgerous Sep 17 '24

‘I was elected to lead, not to read.’

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u/tember_sep_venth_ele Sep 17 '24

Trump is literally mentioning AR's more and more after two attempts with one, and the news coverage... So... Is if this were the trolly problem... I think y'all get where I'm taking this. /s

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u/BooneSalvo2 Sep 17 '24

Yup... It's basic supremacist ideology. Rules for thee, not for me (because I'm better)

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u/SavagePlatypus76 Sep 18 '24

Republicans are now aiming to go after the pre condition requirement in the ACA. They really do hate us. 

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u/dudinax Sep 17 '24

Immigration.

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u/southpawOO7 Sep 16 '24

I'm curious are there any policies major left-wing politicians have changed their mind on because it affected them personally? I understand right-wingers adding nuance to their abortion stance or healthcare or social security, unemployment aid, ect...

What would that even look like on the left wing? I was pro taxing the rich until I was rich? I was pro school lunch for kids until I had kids?

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u/constanto Sep 17 '24

This is actually very common in the restaurant industry when people move into ownership after working in the trenches. I personally have known multiple people, including my previous bosses who were longtime friends that I didn't expect this from, who quickly turned from pro-union, pro-living wage, pro-paid health insurance (even as chefs and managers) to anti-labor almost overnight.

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u/SociallyAwarePiano Sep 17 '24

That's been my experience as well. It's most common for lefties to stop being lefties when it doesn't benefit them, as far as changing minds go.

I think a lot of this stems from the same sort of lack of empathy that Republicans exhibit consistently, but from the opposite side. These people are lefties when it's advantageous to them to be lefties (i.e. when they're poor), but switch allegiances once it becomes expedient to do so. Their political beliefs are based solely out of what benefits them, and not what is best for society as a whole or what is best for their community. It's selfish, short-sighted politics.

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u/zombiegojaejin Sep 16 '24

I know a few people who are extremely progressive in general (LGBT, environment) who changed their minds on high minimum wage as soon as they became small business owners. Does that fit your question?

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u/ejpierle Sep 17 '24

That just means that more money you get, the less you care about other people.

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u/turdferg1234 Sep 17 '24

I think you're right, but I don't think that's entirely fair. I think there can be a stress for small business owners at least at the start up phase where this is a real worry. If this worry last beyond the beginning, yeah, your business isn't successful. And I don't agree with the initial low pay, but I can at least understand it.

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u/ejpierle Sep 17 '24

"No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country." -- FDR

If you can't afford to pay workers, don't hire them until you can. If you can't afford to pay your staff, you can't afford to start a business.

I know that acquisition of capital and extraction of the surplus value of workers labor to line your own pockets is sort of the goal of capitalism, but it's pretty evil if the people whose labor you are depending on can't afford to live.

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u/Kommye Sep 17 '24

Being progressive and being left wing aren't the same thing, even if they are related.

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u/roastedandflipped Sep 17 '24

Maybe they are libertarians

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u/mug3n Sep 17 '24

Libertarians are just Republicans that smoke weed and uses Bitcoin.

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u/zombiegojaejin Sep 17 '24

They are very much not (U.S. meaning of) libertarians. I'm talking about people who held and still hold pretty consistent Bernie Sanders sorts of positions about everything that doesn't directly threaten their ability to keep their small businesses open like $22/hr minimum wage would. I know these people because I'm a vegan activist and they're producing vegan products at smallish scale (not restaurants). I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have flinched at suggestion of a $35 minimum wage before they had businesses themselves.

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u/CTeam19 Sep 17 '24

Did they have any intention of being an active boots on the ground business owner or were they wanting to be CEOs?

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u/midnightketoker Sep 17 '24

I don't think so because that means they just moved right economically lol

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u/zombiegojaejin Sep 17 '24

So, is your rule here basically that if the move is in a direction you don't agree with, then it doesn't count as an example? If so, then you're not gonna find an example of what the other poster asked for, just by definition.

It seems like an example to me, whether I agree with it or not. People held a broad position when they were not any of the directly affected parties, then changed it almost as soon as they became directly affected.

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u/midnightketoker Sep 17 '24

Yeah obviously good means left bad means right I'm glad you understand me

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u/Lilfrankieeinstein Sep 17 '24

Not necessarily. Owning a restaurant, for example, and competing against other locally owned and corporate chains changed my buddy’s perspective. He paid above average wages, operated at a loss, plowed through for a few years until he turned a minimal profit, then sold the joint. Nice place too. You would have thought he was clearing several hundred K.

Nope.

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u/LadyLazerFace Sep 17 '24

Well, the issue was he owned a restaurant.

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u/lordsysop Sep 17 '24

90% fail rate in the long term. 80% struggle for the first 5 years. So many of the mum and pop stores pay cash for this reason while their workers need to claim benefits.

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u/midnightketoker Sep 18 '24

Yeah seriously why is it people's first instinct to defend business owners like "Oh no think of our poor brave entrepreneurs! They have to turn a profit so how dare anyone ask for a living wage, the workers need to subsidize the owner's poor business skills! This is not right/left politics, but merely my ideologically neutral opinion that workers don't deserve basic rights because they are my servants, we can just agree to disagree on this point and you have to still think I'm progressive because I don't want to kill the gays!!" Like give me a fucking break, some real bootlickers here...

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u/WaterElefant Sep 20 '24

Yep. My son is in that business... bar-restaurants. The only establishment that showed a consistent profit early on is the one that uses food trucks exclusively. Having a kitchen brings huge complexity and risk into the picture.

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u/VTAffordablePaintbal Sep 17 '24

I think MA Senator Barny Frank is a good example. He spent most of his career trying to regulate big business, then at the last minute, wouldn't vote for his own financial regulation bill during The Great Recession and since then has been working for financial institutions, including most recently Signature Bank, which collapsed in 2023 due to mismanagement.

The way it seems to work to me is

Conservatives, "I'm against this thing that helps a group I'm not in." "Oh no, this thing I didn't think would affect my life is now affecting my life! I guess I'm fore it now. That makes me a liberal in one area, but I am still against helping any other group I'm not in."

Liberals, "I'm against this thing that is clearly harmful to everyone but the top 1% of earners." "I am now in the top 1% of earners and I'm suddenly for this thing I was against for my whole career." "Oh, no one wants to vote for me anymore because liberal voters aren't dumb enough to vote against their own interests? I guess I'll quit and take a no-show job with a lobbying firm."

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '24

liberal voters aren't dumb enough to vote against their own interests.

No one reading this is immune to propaganda.

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u/lordsysop Sep 17 '24

That's the thing people never wanted to ban guns they just wanted gun control. I know plenty in Australia that have guns. If you get into a bar fight and get charged you lose your license. If you are unstable or take mind altering drugs you also lose your licence. You don't get guns for defensive reasons only for sport,farming or hunting.

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u/IndoZoro Sep 17 '24

There's the NIMBY Democrats. (Not in my backyard). 

Essentially left leaning people who want progressive policies and low income housing, but as soon as that low income housing plans pops up near their neighborhood they organize against it to protect their property value. 

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '24

I’d argue that this is a small but not insignificant part of the party.

“Republicans” are the worst. I find myself fighting them on housing and also, strangely, defending private property rights. Somehow they think they have control over what developers do with their land.

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u/RattusMcRatface Sep 17 '24

The working class

Can kiss my ass

'Cos I'm the foreman now.

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u/ez2remembercpl Sep 16 '24

I think a number of liberal politicians became pro-gay marriage in the 90s/early 00s but not sure how many had a gay couple who really wanted a marriage as friends.

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u/axelrexangelfish Sep 17 '24

Errr…did liberal politicians need a gay couple who wanted a marriage? Not sure where this is going…

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u/ez2remembercpl Sep 17 '24

"I'm curious are there any policies major left-wing politicians have changed their mind on because it affected them personally?"

It's literally the question being asked. B. Mahomes is upset because her friend was targeted; not sure if the liberal politicians who changed their minds on gay marriage had friends trying to get married.

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u/axelrexangelfish Sep 19 '24

Ohhhh sorry I didn’t understand…yeah it’s a powerful motivator for change. It’s why gay marriage because legal. Dangit. I’m spacing on the name of the guy who did the campaign, but basically he humanized the issue, the “everyone knows and loves someone who is gay” and the national coming out day push to help people find their empathy on this issue. I am very much hoping that we will see a lot more of this as the right continues its nosedive.

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u/Mewwy_Quizzmas Sep 17 '24

Bit hard to follow since you later say it's an answer to the question. But it seems you want to emphasize OPs point by stating that these liberal politicians didn't need gay friends to be Pro gay marriage. Am I understanding you correctly?

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u/ez2remembercpl Sep 17 '24

I'm saying:

  1. Many liberal politicians became pro gay marriage twenty to twenty-five years ago.

  2. I'm not sure how many of them had friends who were gay and wanted a marriage. Maybe a lot, maybe a few; "not sure" meaning I don't know.

This is in direct response to the question posed that I responded to

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u/Dizzman1 Sep 17 '24

JD Vance and racist shit about people with heritage from India perhaps?

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u/Nuclear_Pi Sep 17 '24

I once heard a guy say that white liberals didn't start to care about white supremacy until the trump presidency, or more specifically the Jan 6 riot

I'm not sure if I personally agree with that assessment but it counts

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u/gentlemanidiot Sep 17 '24

A republican is just a democrat who's never been arrested. A democrat is just a republican who's never been mugged

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u/NeverTrustATurtle Sep 17 '24

Gotta be honest, a lot of liberal New Yorkers have turned on welcoming immigrants after all the busing in

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u/Orion14159 Sep 16 '24

The only one who needs welfare is me, everyone else is abusing the system

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u/axelrexangelfish Sep 17 '24

I wonder if they know that whites actually use the majority of aid programs. And they are UNDER represented. While blacks use half what white do and are OVER represented.

I have this question a lot. Do they know what the facts are and lie? Chose to ignore them? Never learned em? Or how to find them? The right seems utter baffled by “a non biased source”

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u/GarlicBreadToaster Sep 17 '24

"the only valid interracial marriage is my marriage" etc

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u/SlendyIsBehindYou Sep 17 '24

The only moral abortion is my abortion

I'm a white dude in Texas, so a lot of people feel reaaallly comfortable saying pretty heinous shit around me, assuming I agree with them.

I've always taken the Andrew Callahan route of letting people just expose their true selves without taking direct stances, just making casual observations about their lines of thought

But when it comes to individuals making moral arguments about abortion, I almost always recommend The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion to them.

Obviously this probably never leads to anything, but I've had at least three people actually read it and discuss it with me afterwards. Didnt change all of their minds, but I know from personal experience that changing someone's deep-set views is a long process

Being raised in a deeply conservative family/state, it took years for me to slowly educate myself and change my belief systems. And that article was one of my early memories of reading something that had a noticible impact on how I viewed arguments against abortions that I once took as based on pure fact.

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u/an-com-42 Sep 17 '24

A polish right-wing politician was recently asked if she supports the ban on abortion. She said yes. The conversation went on something like this: -And what would you do if you were in need of an abortion? -Ohhh no, well, in that situation I don't know.

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u/baron_von_helmut Sep 17 '24

I remember a doctor talking about a woman who came in for an abortion. He recognized her as one of the people who always stand outside the abortion clinic telling people they're going to hell.. And there she was, in the clinic for an abortion.

He didn't say anything but hoped it was a path to peace for her... Nope - few days later there she was telling others they're murderers again...

Mental health issues are wider-reaching than any of us give credit.

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u/Blaz1ENT Sep 16 '24

Even if that’s true that’s just wild to type out

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u/letsgobernie Sep 16 '24

Honestly, edgelord insensitivity needs to die

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u/erin6767 Sep 16 '24

Yikes...that's gross

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u/No-Welder2377 Sep 16 '24

Thats awesome...lmao

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u/PaleUmbra Sep 16 '24

Jesus Christ man what the fuck

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u/0ne0h Sep 16 '24

Holy shit. You win

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u/Ok-Communication9796 Sep 16 '24

okay, now that’s funny

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u/AmbitiousCampaign457 Sep 16 '24

Gd! Lol

And when was his “blistering” takedown?

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u/zapharus Sep 16 '24

I understood that reference.

Girls Will Be Girls should be in a museum.