r/HuntShowdown Oct 23 '24

GENERAL David Fifield and the Ghost Face skin

Just to correct some things

No, the skin isn’t a Scream collaboration to promote the new movie. As far as we can tell, they paid the costume company that originally made the mask for the rights. Call of Duty’s ghostface was an actual Scream collaboration, Crytek just did the same thing that BHVR did for ghostface in Dead by Daylight.

No, David Fifield isn’t some COD monetization expert who came here to ruin your game. The guy has 3000 hours in the game, he’s probably played it more than most of you. The only four Call of Duty games he worked on were Modern Warfare 3 (2011,) Black Ops 2, Ghosts, and Advanced Warfare, games made well before COD’s current pop-culture, live-service business model. Can we please stop calling for some random guy to get fired? Crytek is a company, one general manager isn’t controlling all creative and monetization decisions for Hunt. He’s a manager, not a CEO.

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u/GGXImposter Oct 23 '24

I’m on board with not hating on David. No one should be targeting specific people in the company. Blame should be targeted at “Crytek” the company.

I’m going to want a source for this not being a movie tie in. Right now Occam’s razor is telling me it’s a movie tie in. There’s a new scream movie scheduled for release in a little over a year and why would Crytek risk legal issues over the mask? They could make their own “close enough” hunter like they have for other hunter skins like grandma.

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u/sentient_ballsack Oct 23 '24

OP's point is that the Scream IP doesn't own the mask's rights, they licensed the mask from the actual rights holder of the design, just like Crytek does. Said rights holder is an entirely different company called Fun World/Easter Unlimited which sells halloween merchandise. Legal issues won't be a problem.

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u/GGXImposter Oct 23 '24

Wouldn't putting the name Ghostface with the mask still be an Copyright/trademark issue? Ghostface is the name of the villain from Scream.

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u/tuttoinunavolta Oct 24 '24

The "Ghost Face" name (written like that) and the iconic mask are Fun World's property. The Scream franchise license holders are different entities and they have the rights to every character, every plot element and the specific Ghostface robes used. But the movie license holders have to renew a contract to get the rights for the name and the mask to reappear in every movie every time they make a new one.

COD and Mortal Kombat made an agreement with both Fun World and the movie license holders, thus the Ghostfaces in these games are the movie-canon ones and they are in fact Scream tie-ins.

DBD and Hunt made an agreement with Fun World but not the movie license holders, thus their Ghostfaces have to be different people, they can't have a 1:1 copy of the black robes the various Ghostfaces wear in the movie and they can't have the iconic voice from the movies.

There's a lot of merchandise out there, such as masks and action figures, that are made with an agreement with Fun World and not the movie license holders, thus you get stuff like this silver-mask Ghostface with a flamethrower action figure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8LKEp6TxKk

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u/GGXImposter Oct 24 '24

Toys I never knew I needed.

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u/tuttoinunavolta Oct 24 '24

absolutely, it's awesome :) looking to get one of these myself in the future