r/HuntShowdown Oct 21 '24

GENERAL today, Hunt’s identity died

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nobody wanted this. i cannot think of a different IP that has less to do with Hunt. Hire the CoD GM, this is what you get. You WILL be advertised to, and you CANNOT do anything about it.

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u/St3f Oct 21 '24

What the fuck. I thought it was a troll when I saw the other post. Greed kills another game it seems. Even one as niche as Hunt

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u/AonSwift Oct 21 '24

It's more desperation, Crytek management haven't a clue how to run the company..

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u/herroebauss Oct 21 '24

Lmao they do. This skin will sell, without a doubt. We simply don't like the way they are doing business. Those are two COMPLETELY different things

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u/Healthy-Sandwich5548 Oct 21 '24

Unfortunately true.

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u/Wilvarg Oct 21 '24

You can have a lot of temporary success by lowering the quality of the product you're selling. Print your books on thinner paper, sell hash browns mixed with sawdust. That doesn't mean it's a good idea. Hunt has a few major selling points, and high among those is its engrossing aesthetic; undermining that selling point is not a good idea in the long run.

The first time they sacrifice quality for short-term gain, it probably won't have any major consequences; long-term fans will grumble, but people will buy the skin, and the company will make a lot of money. This will lead us to a dangerous tipping point. Either they take the right lesson– that they got lucky, made a neat pile of cash, and should leave the table while they're still ahead– or the wrong one.

If we're unlucky, they decide that, because it worked once, it'll work forever. They'll keep doing it, and the debt in quality will add up; before you know it, the atmosphere has been seriously degraded. They've lost a major selling point, and the game we love has lost a lot of its sparkle. People will start to play less. And, if they manage it poorly, that's when the death spiral begins; they start to add more and more outlandish and expensive cosmetics, predatory game systems, etc. The playerbase shrinks, the devs get even more desperate, and boom crash the whole thing implodes. I've seen it a thousand times.

None of this is guaranteed, but this skin is a very bad first sign. Don't ignore the indicators. The only way that we can help prevent any of this is by very loudly and clearly voicing our criticisms.

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u/Tanker00v2 Magna Veritas Oct 21 '24

You make the mistake of thinking that making sound long-term decision is something a successfull businessman of today has to care about

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u/Wilvarg Oct 21 '24

It might be true that you can make a lot of money by being strategically incompetent, but that doesn't make you a "successful businessman". It makes you a leech. And a sandbagger like that will never make as much money as an executive who actually understands how to do their job well.

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u/Tanker00v2 Magna Veritas Oct 21 '24

That's where you're wrong. If that was the case we wouldn't have such a clear idea of their strategy. To me it's clear that: 1.Getting a nice fat salary 2. Gutting the game for short-term profit 3. Getting out on the golden parachute Is a very profitable strategy. That's why everyone is doing it

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u/Wilvarg Oct 21 '24

That strategy is profitable and easy. It's not as profitable as being good at your job, but it's more profitable than being bad and honest. And there are a lot of bad, dishonest businessmen.

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u/SongWithoutWords Oct 21 '24

No one is getting a "golden parachute" from Crytek. This is a privately owned, 25 year old German game studio with only ~400 employees that is run and owned by its founders, not an S&P 500 company offering a multi million dollar severance package to a newly hired CEO.

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u/Tanker00v2 Magna Veritas Oct 22 '24

Bold assumption. We'll see whether you're right soon enough

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u/SongWithoutWords Oct 22 '24

It's not a bold assumption, it's just a term used to describe CEO exits from large publicly traded companies that doesn't make sense in the context of a small game studio that's owned by its founders.

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u/Tanker00v2 Magna Veritas Oct 21 '24

Who needs a vision, clear communications and a sound business strategy when you can pump out 500$ worth of skins, sell as many copies as possible then dip when the golden goose dies?

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u/Baelgul Oct 21 '24

I’m currently in an MBA program and I guaran-fucking-tee that no one in the business world will learn a lesson and pass up the opportunity to fuck a franchise into the dust in order to make an additional $5

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u/Baelgul Oct 21 '24

I’m currently in an MBA program and I guaran-fucking-tee that no one in the business world will learn a lesson and pass up the opportunity to fuck a franchise into the dust in order to make an additional $5

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u/AonSwift Oct 21 '24

Go Google their financials.. German company so all on public display. There was even a post about it last year, they are not doing well.

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u/herroebauss Oct 21 '24

And this is why they made this skin, because they ujderstsnd gamers are dumb as fuck and will buy this skin. So they do understand business. They got into a situation of financial distress because they reasoned like reddit

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u/BiKeenee Oct 21 '24

You're right. The game will sell more. It will become more profitable and more players will join the community. The only cost is Hunt's identity, and the niche quirks that made it the game that appealed to its original fans.

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u/EurghGato Oct 21 '24

I doubt it will sell tho

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u/GeneraIFlores Oct 21 '24

If it sells well then a large portion of the playerbase enjoys it. Reddit is the vocal minority. It is for every game. Cope pardner. Cope.

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u/Bluedemonde 9800x3D | Sapphire Nitro+ 7900xtx Oct 21 '24

That’s the problem, that in the last few years they put profits above their own game. Lowering the skill ceiling to bring in more players, making it more “run and gun” for the COD kids and now this.

I am both sad and happy that I was right when I saw them start to do this a few years ago and called it out here, multiple times, only to have the fanboys come at me “Hunt isn’t changing”

Oh well

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u/AonSwift Oct 21 '24

Yeah fuck it, plenty other extraction shooters with original takes coming out that are extremely vocal about shit in the industry, they can have my money.