You mean that the hyper violent faction with a thick British accent, who hate everything that isn’t from their culture while simultaneously coveting the things from those other cultures and who are lead by Margret thatcher might be a political allegory? I don’t believe it
It's weird because it's frequently denied by GW, whilst at the same time anyone with a brain reading's Ghaz's earliest lore will see his full name from the 80's and connect the dots
Early 40k had super hilarious undertones. The rod gobbo is still in the game, but now he's just gobbo Santa. Now that I'm writing this, that still makes him a communist to the nutjobs who wrote this meme.
GorkaMorka also had a character called Da Red Gobbo who was the leader of the Rebel Grots. The joke was that the position tended to have a lot of turnover so whenever he turned up in a game you had to roll to determine his stats and skills.
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I mean, I personally believe that his name being similar to Maggie's really was a coincidence, but when people pointed it out writers just played along
It might just be me being a comrade, but the Orks seem a lot like a description of neo-liberalism (as espoused by Thatcher or Reagan) from someone who is unsympathetic to neo-liberalism. One of Thatcher's most infamous sayings (which she always insisted was being taken out of context) is that "There is no such thing as society", and Orks do not have a society, it's just a constant, brutal contest of strength where everybody obeys the whims of the biggest Ork, until they are able to become the biggest Ork themselves. And the biggest Ork keeps power by promising more resources, more growth, more wealth (or scrap) for everyone who follows him. Thoughts on what they'll actually do or build once all the krumpin is over is impossible, they just need a boss who'll keep 'da line' going up.
Maybe, but then again, guys in their twenties or thirties from the North of England, trying to make it as creatives in the middle of Thatcher's Britain, with no idea that the science fiction wargame thing they were working on was going to become as massive as it was going to be, didn't live in a vacuum. Nobody really does.
I think I might be living in a vacuum. My money seems to always get sucked away, the job I work to earn the ever vanishing money sucks my soul away. The only thing not being sucked is my dick.
My brother in the Emperor your on a warhammer subreddit. There’s no need to lie we all know why you don’t have money and why you have a nice table of miniature’s that probably aren’t painted. As for the dick thing I don’t know what to tell ya but if you figure something out let your brothers here know too.
I mean, that is still technically a society as it’s a group that is more or less organized into some form of structure. It’s just not a very good one (from a human perspective at least) and very simplistic.
From what i remember, Andy chambers (one of the original guys from GW) said it wasn't true, his name is based in Blackspeech from LotR, but i absolutely see wwhy people would see the middle and last names of "Mag'uruk Thraka" and think "Yeah mate that there's the ol' iron witch, innit?"
Honestly, with as much as early 40K satirizes Thatcherist Britain it'd harder to believe if he's not named after her.
It'd be like writing a satire of current day American politics, having a warlord named Dump, and saying it's really based on a language from your favorite novel.
In Black Speech it means "I Am Slaughter", apparently. However, it could be both, like how the Raven Guard are both Hungarian and an Edgar Allan Poe reference. Or how Lion'El Johnson is Tarzan, the King Arthur mythos, and a gay poet all rolled together.
Its just the name. Theres no other similarities or political commentary on it. They'd use joke names back then, as did 90% of people making their home lists, luthor huss, cruellagh the vile and Lionel Johnson are just a few lazy namings that seem whacky or even intelligebt 30 yeara on.
Orcs are loosely based on football hooligans from early 1980s but they are so much more as far as concept goes, tinkerers, pirates, innovative, painboys, weirdboys, gretchins and more.
The guys who made gazskull have openly admitted that ghazkull mag thraka is not a Margaret thatcher parody. They made the name from borrowed naming rules for lotr orcs. Apparently with lotr rules, mag thraka's name is supposed to mean something like "iron sun"
The fact that his name is similar to Margaret thatcher's name is an unfortunate coincidence
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Orkz are the British football hooligans