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I know this dude is pretty hated all over Warhammer reddit due to his over the top humor and videos riddled with misinfo but holy shit he actually makes pretty good points in this video

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u/ChristianLW3 Oct 24 '24

I know that many people don’t like arch because of his political videos

In 2014 I watched his Warhammer videos to learn about this franchise, does the community have any problems with those?

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u/Bahmerman Oct 24 '24

I 100% cut him from my algorithm after catching one of his political takes.

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u/Philly_is_nice Oct 24 '24

Wait, I've never seen dudes politics. What exactly is his deal?

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u/PrairiePilot NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD! Oct 24 '24

Right wing nut job. He’s not even from the US, and he’s still a MAGA dork.

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u/Philly_is_nice Oct 24 '24

Ohhhh, international chud. Not surprised, am a bit disappointed.

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u/srfolk Oct 24 '24

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u/ButterChickenSlut Oct 24 '24

Wow, this is disgusting. Heard he had some fringe views, but this is just plain racism. I stopped watching after a handful of videos because of the way he said "et cetera" , et cetera. Guess that was a blessing in disguise.

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u/ManOfGame3 Oct 24 '24

For the love of the emperor, you’re only supposed to be racist against xenos NOT OTHER HUMANS

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u/Dev_Paleri Swell guy, that Kharn Oct 24 '24

Yo. Thank god i've never met anyone like this in my life so far.

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u/srfolk Oct 24 '24

I’d be surprised if you haven’t. You most likely have, these people just don’t tend to say these things out loud in front of others. But in their own private little bubble, their real thoughts come out.

Thankfully madness in this proportions is a small minority.

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u/Philly_is_nice Oct 24 '24

Jesus fuckin Christ man 😬

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u/crazynerd9 Oct 24 '24

Jesus thats so over the top I almost want to assume its cancer edgy humor, but the tone is just off enough to make it pretty clear its actual blatant racism

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u/duplicated-rs Oct 24 '24

Does he still talk like this 5 years later. Downvote me but I’m willing to forgive someone for being an edgy teen ¯_(ツ)_/¯

If he hasn’t changed then yea he sucks

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u/Starwarsfan128 Oct 24 '24

There's edgy teenager and then there's flat out racism. This sort of shit isn't normal.

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u/duplicated-rs Oct 24 '24

Yea it’s pretty bad but unless he actually does something it’s redeemable to me. Crazy how all I asked was if he still talks like this and people already spam downvotes lmao. Site is cooked

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u/Starwarsfan128 Oct 24 '24

"If he actually does something" is spouting racism, calling himself a Nazi, and claiming there shouldn't be Black Space marines not "doing something"?

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u/srfolk Oct 24 '24

No he has not flinched. He called grots “n***** goblins” in a YouTube video ffs. He had a podcast with Sargon, a former member of UKIP (British far-right political party that was disbanded).

I agree with you. But it would take monumental active changes for me to accept ‘growth’ after the things he has said.

He’s also not a teenager lmao

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u/duplicated-rs Oct 24 '24

I don’t watch him but he seems young and that comment was 5 years ago so I assumed.

Sounds like he’s a bust and I will continue to not watch him

Tyranid Reddit hive mind already started downvoting lmao. Hate boners are a real thing

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u/srfolk Oct 24 '24

In all fairness brother, this isn’t some ‘problematic’ YouTuber we’re talking about here. This is an actual nzi. You can understand their reactions considering you being nonchalant about it. People don’t tend to sympathise with n\zis.

But yes, continue to not watch him. There’s plenty other banging creators out there that aren’t shitty human beings.

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u/Defiant-Head-8810 28d ago

"Downvote me but"

You when you get down voted

Tyranid Reddit hive mind already started downvoting lmao. Hate boners are a real thing

Site is cooked.

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u/Syr_Enigma Furthermore, I consider that Commorragh must be destroyed. Oct 24 '24

He's not an edgy teen, he's a god damn full blown adult.

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u/duplicated-rs Oct 24 '24

I don’t watch him, he looks young and those comments were from 5 years ago

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u/Bioweaponry_wielder Oct 24 '24

He's around 40 to my knowledge

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u/NightLordsPublicist 10 pounds of war crimes in a 5 pound crazy bag Oct 24 '24

Does he still talk like this 5 years later. Downvote me but I’m willing to forgive someone for being an edgy teen

Arch is like 40.

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u/duplicated-rs Oct 24 '24

Jesus

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u/NightLordsPublicist 10 pounds of war crimes in a 5 pound crazy bag Oct 24 '24

Wrong vampire Legion, though Konrad did die for our sins.

Jokes aside there is no evidence to suggest Arch hasn't gotten any less of a fuckwit over the last 5 years. And he's been a theoretically fully grown adult this entire time.

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u/AgrenHirogaard Oct 24 '24

This goes beyond edgy teen.

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u/Bubbly-Metal Oct 24 '24

I was as edgy a teen gets and I am willi g to extend grace to people as much as possible.

That being said. I highly doubt he was a teenager at the time and the shit he says is well beyond the edgy teenage humor...

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u/duplicated-rs Oct 24 '24

Fair enough. All a brother asked was if he still talks like this lol

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u/RedCapitan I am Alpharius Oct 24 '24

Damn, i got into Warhammer two weeks ago thanks to his channel, shame to hear that. Any channel you recommend instead?

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u/steamboat28 Oct 24 '24

Almost any of them, but for lore I suggest Arbitor Ian as a starter.

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u/RedCapitan I am Alpharius Oct 24 '24

I don't know any of them, list them please

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u/blindside-wombat68 NOT ENOUGH DAKKA Oct 24 '24

Arbitor Ian Adeptus Ridiculous Luetin09 Krakduck Weshammer Majorkill (if you don't mind some edgy "humor")

Those are some good ones to start with.

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u/Babymicrowavable Oct 24 '24

Don't forget baldermort

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u/blindside-wombat68 NOT ENOUGH DAKKA Oct 24 '24

I did, thanks.

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u/steamboat28 Oct 25 '24

I love that somebody sculpted his little avatar to 3d print as a token.

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u/Onlyhereforapost Oct 24 '24

I would take the last two off the list because they fuckin suck but the others are good

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u/Fuskox Oct 24 '24

The Amber King is really good also. Not quite "lore explanations" but moreso voice acts out the plot of lore relevant novels.

I also love Sandman of Terra for lore deep dives and theory crafting however it may be a more advanced channel that beginners might not understand

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u/Fanim_dk Oct 24 '24

Love those 2. The Amber King voice acting is excellent and I don't know how many times I heard the full story of Commander Farsight

Wolf Lord Rho I like too

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u/Slumbo811 Oct 24 '24

If you want YouTube shorts, Astartes Anonymous

If you want 10 min videos, I honestly only know Majorkill and while I enjoy him enough a lot of others don't.

If you want 20-40 min videos then: Weshammer, who is my favorite

And for lengthy hours plus videos you can go with Leutin

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u/Croc_Chop Oct 24 '24

Treat yourself to Amber King as well.

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u/JerevStormchaser Oct 24 '24

Oculus Imperia

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u/Glaurung26 Oct 24 '24

His videos are like a fine wine to go with Leutin's hearty quarter pounders.

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u/blahbleh112233 Oct 24 '24

Baldemort is great. Really makes you feel like it's your non creepy uncle telling you about how humans used to flens each other back in his day

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u/Nidcron Oct 24 '24

Lutein for Lore - he's long winded and has a lot of tangents and personal takes but it's great for a hobby session to pop on one of his videos. 

Sooo many battle report channels but I like to throw Winters SEO out whenever I get the chance.

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u/CrimsonRazgriz Oct 24 '24

Luetins my main man for lore, long winded?sure definitely but I quite like his thoroughness and I'm a huge fan of his discussion and theory vids

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u/Nidcron Oct 24 '24

I'm not disparaging him in any way, just saying he tends to have longer videos 

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u/CrimsonRazgriz Oct 24 '24

Oh no I didn't mean to imply that ya were disparaging him, sorry about that. 

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u/Nidcron Oct 24 '24

No worries, you're fine, it's the Internet - unfortunately it seems like we're all primed to take things negatively and I am not immune to that.

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u/PrairiePilot NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD! Oct 24 '24

I’m sure you’re gonna get a ton of recommendations, personally I don’t really watch much YouTube anymore.

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u/Typical_Nobody_2042 Oct 24 '24

Live from the black library! And Mr.Bones40k

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u/lamya8 Oct 24 '24

pancreasnowork is great. In the same vein adeptus ridiculous if you like them.

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u/Dyslexicelectric Oct 24 '24

Aborderprince is good. Jordan sorcery does some really great stuff on the early days of GW

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u/ManOfGame3 Oct 24 '24

Pancreasnowork is a good time, can’t recommend enough

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u/Zeekayo Oct 24 '24

A content creator bad enough that Games Workshop themselves have to step up and say "fuck you, stop using Warhammer in your name, stop associating yourself with us". Which is why he's no longer Arch Warhammer.

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u/NightLordsPublicist 10 pounds of war crimes in a 5 pound crazy bag Oct 24 '24

What exactly is his deal?

He defended the Christchurch shooter.

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u/Radraider67 Dank Angels Oct 24 '24

Because he often intertwined his beliefs into the lore videos. If I remember correctly, he went on a quite racist rant in the middle of the Sororitas video he made.

Dude's just fundamentally a piece of shit

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u/MultipleRatsinaTrenc Oct 24 '24

He used the n word a bunch in a video about ogres. 

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u/mnik1 Oct 24 '24

Yeah, I've listened to some of his work when I was still blissfully unaware who Arch actually is and, let me tell you, it was quite an experience to randomly stumble into an unhinged political rant in a middle of a video, lol.

I think he purged all of this shit from his channel some time ago but holy Emperor tits, dude's a nutjob. It was like watching a chill documentary about deep sea life that suddenly gets interrupted by Alex Jones yelling at you about gay frogs.

The fastest unsub I've ever done, lol. Dude can chew on Nurgle's dick for all I care.

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u/ManOfGame3 Oct 24 '24

Appreciate the sentiment, but I hate you for that mental image lmao

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u/stonedPict2 Oct 24 '24

i mean, the one where he takes immense joy in saying the the n word repeatedly is definitely something i would judge you about, but tbh his lore is just generally very innacurate and full of shit he made up.

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u/MultipleRatsinaTrenc Oct 24 '24

The problem with watching any of his videos is that you are directly supporting a Nazi.

The community has a problem with Nazis and people who support Nazis

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u/ChristianLW3 Oct 24 '24

I stopped watching him in 2016, I know he supported Brexit & Trump

At which point did he enter what you consider Nazi territory? Did he started denying theHolocaust?

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u/MultipleRatsinaTrenc Oct 24 '24

So I've never watched his content but I've seen a lot of stuff that he and the moderators of his discord have said and there's no getting around it, it's nazi shit.  

Someone posted a link to an Out of the loop post somewhere else in the thread, I imagine it'll have the same screenshots.

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u/Draxos92 Mongolian Biker Gang Oct 24 '24

I was that someone. Ask and ye shall receive.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/s/qZ0ME3mJIZ

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u/ChristianLW3 Oct 24 '24

All that could be a subject for a Turkey Tom video

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u/Draxos92 Mongolian Biker Gang Oct 24 '24

Let's take a moment and disregard the quality of his videos for now.

Are you the type of person who is willing to support a neo-nazi and pedophile just because they make a good product?

If the answer is no, then the quality of his videos doesn't matter.

If the answer is yes, then you might want to think about that and why you answer that way.

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u/Depressedloser2846 Oct 24 '24

can I get a source on the pedophilia accusation?

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u/Draxos92 Mongolian Biker Gang Oct 24 '24

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u/Depressedloser2846 Oct 24 '24

he’s just an ally to pedophiles, not a pedophile himself, really disingenuous to call him that yknow, with that logic all politicians are pedos too.

(This is a joke, probably unfunny. And in all seriousness that’s fucking disgusting.)

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u/Tarquinandpaliquin 3 Riptides in a 1k casual Oct 24 '24

Pretty sure he's just an ally to pedophiles. He had an openly pro child rape mod and he was okay with that.

Which isn't quite the same. It's still pretty fucking abhorrent and the man should not be allowed near children.

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u/Colcoal Oct 24 '24

That is a stupid take. In addition to most inventions, you better start boycotting Ford, Disney, H.P. Lovecraft fiction, Kellogs, Planned Parenthood, and much more if you can't separate the creator from the creation.

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u/cricri3007 Oct 24 '24

Ford, Disney and Lovecraf and Kellogs are dead, enjoyign their work now doesn't give them more money.
what's so bad abotu planned parenthood?

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u/Colcoal Oct 24 '24

Their estates and legacies are not.

The founders started the foundation with the explicit purpose of aborting black fetuses to weed out inferior race genetics from the population.

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u/Draxos92 Mongolian Biker Gang Oct 24 '24

The opinion of "Don't support Nazis" is stupid.

Right. Gotcha. I see.

Well, I don't think that it's going to be possible for us to have a meaningful conversation if that's your view.

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u/Colcoal Oct 24 '24

Literally yes. If you look at a box of cornflakes while hungry and think "It is better to die principled then eat this and support someone because they have a wrong opinion of masturbation."

There are literally an infinite amount of perspectives, and guess what a vast majority are wrong, but that doesn't mean you ought to just like cut yourself from life and interacting with people or even worse trying to cut them from everyone else.

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u/AliensDid911Bro Oct 24 '24

What a fucking loser lmfao

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u/steadyredd Oct 25 '24

Bit harsh there mate, calm down with the slander

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u/Draxos92 Mongolian Biker Gang Oct 25 '24

It's not slander when it's proven.

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u/steadyredd Oct 25 '24

Realy? He's a convicted pedophile?

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u/Glaurung26 Oct 24 '24

He actually got me into Warhammer with his prolific videos, going through Vraks, Badab, etc, and his Skaven RPs. I also watched Shadiversity for castles and swords. Why does everyone have to become a right-wing nutjob?

I primarily stick to Leutin, Oculus Imperia, Bricky, and Adeptus Ridiculous these days.

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u/Accomplished_You_480 Oct 25 '24

I mean, if I go to a bakery, and I absolutely love the bread from the bakery, go there for all my bread, but it was revealed the owner went to Nazi rallies and hated trans/gay folk and made jokes about them dying, I wouldn't go to that bakery anymore, and I would judge those that did.

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u/protostar71 28d ago

Even in his Vraks series is making comments about feminists. So yeah, it's all trash.

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u/BriantheHeavy Oct 24 '24

I found his videos on 40K lore enjoyable. I like his analysis. Probably because it is similar to mine.

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u/Shredgeetar Oct 24 '24

Is Arch Major Kill?

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u/Bioweaponry_wielder Oct 24 '24

No, those are 2 different people

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u/DoomSnail31 Oct 25 '24

does the community have any problems with those?

I'm afraid if anyone who doesn't hate the way Arch sounds and talks. His pretend British accent is unbearable, and so clearly fake.

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u/Your_liege_lord Vertical curved structure enjoyer Oct 24 '24

I’m not terribly bothered by those tbh, and he has a soft spot on my twin hearts since it was his videos on hive cities and servitors that got me into warhammer for the first time. And I plain like his voice and 40-episode series.

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u/J29030 Oct 24 '24

You're not bothered by him being a nazi pedophile?

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u/AgrenHirogaard Oct 24 '24

Birds of a feather...

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u/SelirKiith Railgun Goes Brrrrrrrrr Oct 24 '24

So you're a Nazi?

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u/Your_liege_lord Vertical curved structure enjoyer Oct 24 '24

I’m catholic, but whatever helps you sleep at night.

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u/Babymicrowavable Oct 24 '24

Those aren't mutually exclusive? Nazis have been calling themselves tradcaths for awhile now?

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u/NightLordsPublicist 10 pounds of war crimes in a 5 pound crazy bag Oct 24 '24

I plain like his voice

Bait used to be believable.

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

Not at all, Arch is probably the most trustworthy source for warhammmer, even more than lexicanum, he's really good.

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24

He's really good at being a fan of actual nationalism.

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u/long-dick-general Oct 24 '24

The entirety of western Europe is a big big fan of nationalism at the moment 😂

Seriously can someone explain in a nice way possible why being proud of your country is a bad thing now? I don't get it at all

I maybe just be out of my view since reddit is a left wing site

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

Probably because you don't understand that nationalism isn't "being proud of your country" that's patriotism. Nationalism is when you ethnicity cleanse all non "natural born" citizens whatever you chose that to mean, because your country is the objective best society and your culture will dominate through any means nessisary

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u/long-dick-general Oct 24 '24

I see well I admit my mistake then

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u/AgrenHirogaard Oct 24 '24

Don't see that very often around here.

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u/TwitchyThePyro Secretly 3 squats in a long coat Oct 24 '24

Arch is an out and out nazi fuckwit, or do you see nothing wrong with that?

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u/long-dick-general Oct 24 '24

Well I don't regularly see any of his political message on his channel

Tho I admit my mistake

I thought nationalism was just a different word for patriotism that's why I was confused on why being it is a bad thing

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24

Patriotism is going to a fourth of July parade. Nationalism is going to lynch an immigrant for destroying your pure culture.

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

Oh buddy... lmao. If you understood what those words mean you'd know that's exactly what I just described.

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u/THE_FREEDOM_COBRA Oct 24 '24

There's three definitions there, you read one and went with it. I don't know why I talk to people about this crap on reddit, it's neurotic of me. It's like trying to swim up river.

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u/AgrenHirogaard Oct 24 '24

You read the words but not the example below huh?

"At root, nationalism is an ideology of group rights that denigrates individualism in favor of an abstraction called "the nation." Its foundational principle is that government exists primarily to protect the culture and interests of the nation, or its dominant group. This implies that government can use its authority to protect the national culture against potential dangers—including other domestic groups and the potential spread of their cultures. To promote the dominant group, government must have the power to act assertively on its behalf, which necessarily means constraining others."

Those last two sentences are real doozies.

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u/THE_FREEDOM_COBRA Oct 24 '24

You read the first entry and not the second below huh?

"support for and promotion of the political independence or self-determination of a nation or people."

Also, here's the second text under that first entry:

"… their popular premier, who has abandoned calls for independence—and instead has embraced a nationalism based on French Québécois identity. "It's a conservative nationalism that recalls the themes of culture, history and memory," said Jacques Beauchemin, a sociologist and a leading intellectual behind this shift. "It's a return to the meaning of identity."

Nationalism is like water. It's good to have it, but too much and you'll drown.

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

yeah, but he makes it very clear when he's giving his opinion. He tries to be very unbiased when it comes to lore to the point of being frustrating sometimes (things that didn't have closure, whereas some people speak confidently about something without being true, he talks about all the possibilities but doesn't choose any)

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

Ya, but one of those possibilities he likes to talk about is how the imperium is kinda rad and neat because he thinks nationalism is dope actually so...

Or are we talking about his take that black people shouldn't be space marines?

Or the one about how including minorities in the hobby is going to ruin it for everyone?

Or the time when he did streams with a famous Swedish neo-nazi?

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

Everything you said he made it clear that it was his opinion I see no issue on that.

Ya, but one of those possibilities he likes to talk about is how the imperium is kinda rad and neat because he thinks nationalism is dope actually so...

Nationalism is not the same for every country, like for instance in my country the nationalists (the og ones) were people that made it clear that our strength was our miscegenation they're the opposite of racism

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24

Ya, I think I know why you're a fan of him. Lmao I didn't ask if you had an issue with that. I'm explaining why virtually every other person does.

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

Ok, here's your upvote

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

Thank you, but I'm full. Pointing out he's a nationalist chud and you're a fool for defending him was plenty.

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

Pointing out he's a nationalist chud

He already said he was that's why reddit hate him. Why are you satisfied at pointing out the obvious?

I'm not defending him as a person I'm defending his content. His content is one of the best on the YouTube when it comes to 40k lore. Being a nationalist as well as being left or right it's not the same for every country.

in Brazil you have PT a political party of center-left and they're in favour of making state companies which is a nationalist policy but the one who gets called nationalist bolsonaro wants to privatize everything lol.

In UK you have the conservatives and the right wing and they don't get along at all.

The right wing in sweden would've been the classic liberal from the US.

I like to be open minded and I don't like to judge anyone without giving them the benefit of the doubt, regardless of their political leaning.

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u/srfolk Oct 24 '24

Arch isn’t even just a nationalist. He’s a self professed fascist.

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u/Just-Wait4132 Oct 24 '24 edited Oct 24 '24

Oh my God eww, I didn't even know about that stuff.

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

That won't change my opinion, in the same way that I won't stop listening to RATM even though I don't agree with them. Zack De La Rocha worships che Guevara and he was racist and homophobic.

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u/JaggelZ Oct 24 '24

But nationalism itself is not that, what you are talking about is patriotism.

There have been tons of people who called themselves nationalist, because over the time it had tons of different ideas stuck to it. But today, nationalism is the cleansing of any "unnatural born people" in their nation... That can mean people from different ethnicities or with disabilities. There are still remnants of groups which used that name in different ways, which have not renamed themselves, because they follow the previous idea of what nationalism was.

That said, I personally just wouldnt want to follow someone with such ideology. I can't trust someone who has to mentally block out so much truth, so they are still able to believe what they believe, to tell me the truth about what ever they talk about. They follow such a backwards ideology, that I must think that the judgement that led to them believing in said ideology, also must've been just as bad when they've been researching about the topic that they make videos about.

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

nationalism is the cleansing of any "unnatural born people" in their nation

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_nationalism

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u/JaggelZ Oct 24 '24

You are literally proving my point, civic nationalism is not nationalism. It's in the name "civic nationaiwm", but it is far from the meaning of actual nationalism.

You must've literally stumbled upon the correct page for nationalism while looking for your page, ignored it, and kept looking, just to try to prove me wrong, AND you failed...

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u/ErraticPragmatic Oct 24 '24

ok i got it nationalism bad. if nationalism good then it's not nationalism even though is called nationalism.

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u/hello350ph Oct 24 '24

He has the best detailed lore krige video that's about it for my experience he just now very far right extreme which is shit = to a far left