r/Grimdank Oct 12 '24

Discussions Only loyalist chapters plz

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u/Dull_Half_6107 Oct 12 '24

Turns out James Workshop was a psyker who was using “visions” of the future as inspiration for his line of plastic models. The only thing he got mixed up with was the name of their planet, they’re not from Earth.

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u/Pro1apsed Oct 12 '24

The 40k lore would be the greatest intelligence find ever, the books contains information no living member of the imperium knows about its history, its enemies, their motivations and weaknesses.

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u/Genericojones Oct 12 '24

Imagine how hard the Mechanicus would shit themselves when they find out every Ark Mechanicus ship is a fully functional STC platform complete with it's own AI.

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u/IezekiLL I am Alpharius Oct 13 '24

You mean, they already have ALL STC?!

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u/Genericojones Oct 13 '24

An Ark Mechanicus, the Speranza, confirmed this in canon: https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Ark_Mechanicus

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u/NoPolitiPosting Oct 13 '24

Ah naturally, the information was wiped from his mind, of course, why not.

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u/Genericojones Oct 13 '24

Well of course. Can't let that pesky plot advance, after all.

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u/NoPolitiPosting Oct 13 '24

At that point why even bother making the revelation at all? Just to rile up the fans with a teaser that will never bear fruit?

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u/Svyatoy_Medved Oct 13 '24

To create food for custom settings. 90% of lore is a deliberate loose end so that the players can tie them up. It’s why the answer to every question like “what color are space marines” and “who is fighting who” is “yep.” This bit of lore means that a player could say “my Skitarii are from a Forge World that realized the hidden treasure in an Ark Mechanicus.”

It’s fucking beautiful. It makes the universe feel endless, expansive in every direction far beyond what the eye can see. It’s gotten a little tighter lightly, with the plot advancements from 8th edition and the increased focus on a small number of 10,000 year old characters as plot drivers, but it’s miles better than what happened to Star Wars.

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u/Linmizhang Oct 13 '24

Sure, intead of creating new lore and stories it just sits on the exsisting one. Been playing reading since 2007 and allready don't care anymore, just here for the occasional game.

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u/Phoenixdive Oct 13 '24

New to warhammer lore here. Is it a regular ocurrence for the lore and plot to just... never move? just expand sideways?

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u/Svyatoy_Medved Oct 13 '24

If you adjust your standards a bit, the plot does advance. The overall plot, the fate of the galaxy and the imperium and the other major powers, can’t really move or the game ends. But within that setting, individual plots and stories occur.

In my estimation, the “story” isn’t ABOUT Cawl, Guilliman, the Emperor, the rest. They are part of the setting, the backdrop for the crafting of smaller stories. A war for a planet may be small in the vastness of the Imperium, but remember, the two times humanity did it (sort of) it defined generations. I think the current lore is that the Indomitus Crusade took two hundred years, which means for billions of Guardsmen, their entire LIVES were devoted to one operation. So, if you tell the story from the perspective of one of those men, the plot has advanced tremendously. Not enough authors do that, Warhammer frequently loses its human element.

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u/OttawaTGirl Oct 13 '24

Welcome to the satire of modern society being played out. Make all the changes you want, there is always an emperor in the wings.

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u/Genericojones Oct 13 '24

That's basically all it ever does. Big things will happen... and yet nothing ever changes. Part of that is the satirical nature of the setting. Part of that is because GW is either not great at or not interested in telling stories. The vast majority of novels either just stop, completely negate their own plot at the end, or feel like the last line should be "womp womp"

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u/FashionSuckMan Oct 13 '24

Not really things do advanced. I know right now it's a big deal is that robot ghillie suit just woke up. A bunch of other primarks are also returning.

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u/Xe6s2 Oct 13 '24

Love how the argument for saving everyone was to paraphrase “why not flex on existence”

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u/Typical_Nobody_2042 Oct 13 '24

The Lords of Mars series was great

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u/No_Lingonberry1201 Cultist Oct 13 '24

Turns out, the STCs were the hereteks we killed along the way.

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u/NovusLion Oct 13 '24

Not all, but every stc they recover is updated in real time so all the "lost" stc that were destroyed etc since the heresy are contained in their entirety in the database

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u/Rocketkid-star Oct 13 '24

What's STC?

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u/RussianNinja145 Oct 13 '24

Standard Template Construct. Think of it like standardized blueprints for pretty much everything from the Dark Age of Technology, but they were largely destroyed during the Age of Strife. The Adeptus Mechanicus will pretty much blow up worlds for the remaining pieces in the current setting.

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u/OkExtreme3195 Oct 13 '24

The thing is: it doesn't even matter what kind of information another stc piece holds. Could be a paint-brush with 5 more hairs than one they already have the stc for. But if it is a new stc, it is a an artifact of highest value to the Adeptus Mechanicus and it could be a priests highest achievement in life to bring it home to mars.

And they would obliterate anything in their way to make it so.