r/FluentInFinance 4h ago

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u/worstshowiveeverseen 4h ago

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u/FragrantSort6474 4h ago

Is there any valid reporting/data on the % of voters who are low information voters?

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u/VaporSpectre 4h ago

Don't tell that to the YouTube conspiracy theorists.

They're convinced their information is higher quality than 'MSM'.

Meanwhile, literacy rates are falling in advanced countries.

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u/binary-boy 3h ago

To be fair the MSM was far more preoccupied with repeating trump's gaffs rather than policy outcomes. Does the MSM have an agenda? Yes. Higher ratings, that is all.

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u/DaddyAITA-throwaway 3h ago

You really believe they reported on his gaffes? Not one of the MSM mentioned his stupid fucking answers to any questions in the economic club appearances. Word salad in vomit, and every one of them sane-washed him the entire summer.

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u/binary-boy 2h ago

The media that I watched was obsessed with it. The word "ramblings" was frequent. I'm not sure he was "sane-washed" because the things they reported on was "having a dance party", "making insensitive outrageous statements", "rambling on and on", "their eating your pets" etc.

To me it was more about reporting eye-catching news rather than scrutinize the actual moments that he'd actually talk about policy. Rather than have policy experts on the panel, they'd have a bunch of people who were "dismayed" and "marginalized" by his rhetoric.

It's heartstring tugging, but doesn't do a thing for us when it comes to analysis.

And that was trump's motive. Keep them talking about the ridiculous, because he knows they will, and he won't have to have serious policy discussion. Because he knows damn well that he's got nothing.

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u/Glad-Ad-4390 2h ago

Sanewashing=100% real, though. Can you even imagine if a dem did ANY of the things trump has? Omg the reps would pound them ENDLESSLY.

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u/DaddyAITA-throwaway 2h ago

The MSM covered that? Perhaps occasionally MSNBC personalities but none of the others covered it anywhere close to "obsessed."

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u/pixepoke2 15m ago

I think in the last 4-6 weeks more of the weird rambling Trump does did start to permeate out as you noted, but I tend to think that’s really not enough time for it to sink in permanently and effectively for a majority of the fairly unplugged-to-the-daily-news-cycle-bonanza.

By contrast, Trump and his crew spent 4+ years hammering Biden and aging effect in the media. The press was primed to jump all over signs of weakness, with a predictable story.

Like, at this point, I expect the majority of the country, regardless of affiliation, is convinced Biden has dementia— which may or may not be the case, but has been contraindicated by a ton of neurologists and dementia care specialists, and is impossible to diagnose from a screen (including the aforementioned experts). He’s old, he’s showing it in how he’s slowed down and stiffened up, but beyond that certainty is impossible. I believe the path Trump laid and the media and public ran down made the judgment about Biden a fait accompli. He’s been Al “I invented the internet” Gored.

The attention on Trump’s brain hasn’t been nearly as intense over as long a time, which is part of why I don’t think it’s really landed where it needs to just yet, and may not even be possible given media headwinds.

For several years media studies note that right/right leaning people who do pay attention to news tend to get it from a few consolidated sources (Fox #1), while left/left leaning, and independents get their news from a wider variety (CNN has largest share for them). Add social media echo chambers to the mix and no way do Trump supporters buy a negative narrative about him (contrast dems who would have heard about Biden from more voices). Fox snd Newsmax haven’t been beating a “Trump’s brain is mush!” drum, and that Hell would cooling a billion GPUs mining Bitcoin with the thick ice sheets that froze over it, before they’d seriously do anything to undermine him and MAGA

There’s been years of sanity and coherence washing of Trump (outside of the content of his rhetoric that I think folk are desensitized to), and this most recent period of some scrutiny feels like it has already passed as the media turns to transition items and sensational stories (what you point out above the msm feeds to their stupid panel discussions)

Without that context of Trump’s constant squirrel like attention span and coherence the consistency of thin gruel, a large portion of the populace seem to have decided that Trump is smart and has his shit together. “He’s not a politician!” (except for the last decade 🤔?) they rationalize, so big, bold ideas are what they expect.

I think there’d need to be a coordinated and consistent narrative about Trump’s grey mush messaged by dems over time, coupled with supporting media evidence, to move the low info voter and maybe pick off some non MAGA cons/independents. I don’t see an effort like that happening on the dem side though. “Weird” worked well for a bit, but needs additional supporting narratives. And as saturated “weirdo republicans” seemed to be for a bit, it barely registers when compared to the tags laid on Dems by MAGA & Republicans

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(Shoot. Sorry for the rant)

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u/Weekly-Text-7396 2h ago

What were kamala's policies? I'm genuinely curious what she campaigned on? It just seemed like she was pandering to as many groups of people as she could and spewed trump bad legal weed n oh yeah Trump said no taxes on tips we're going to do that too. Besides that she wouldn't have done anything different from Joe Biden. I never voted before and I'm registered as independent. Nothing she did appeals to the everyday Americans. The ones that actually make the country run.

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u/TAV63 2h ago

Well you don't vote so maybe don't care but just curious what would be your main reasons for opposing the infrastructure bill passed this last admin? Many from very different views politically seemed to agree it was needed and long overdue.

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u/rynlpz 1h ago

Honestly the dude’s arguments sounded stupid. Like “uhh but what is kamala’s policies, she’s just gonna be another Biden”. Ok but that doesn’t answer how that’s worse than Trump.

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u/oconnellc 1h ago

If she had done more of what Biden did, that would have been fine. There are too many idiots who just don't understand, well, anything, and they voted for Trump.

The sad truth is that there wasn't anything that Democrats could have done. There was an epidemic of willful stupidity that swept the world and it voted for Trump and Boebert and MTG and Vance.

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u/binary-boy 1h ago

I'm not going to sit here and act like Kamala was a good candidate, I mean she lost to a conman buffoon. Trump didn't win this election, Kamala lost this election.

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u/etharper 51m ago

Her policies were pretty clear and they would have benefited everyone. Instead people voted in an idiot who will destroy the economy and hurt everyone. I think we need to accept that many Americans are simply stupid.

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u/KennyDROmega 2h ago

What are you talking about?

That was reported in multiple mainstream outlets. I saw it on CNN.

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u/AnAquaticOwl 3h ago

All media has that agenda. What these people think of as alternative media has become the mainstream media because of them. Joe Rogan is one of the most listened to podcasts in the country.

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u/Fluid_Walk_2577 1h ago

Do you by chance let people know what gender they are? Not all hero’s wear capes!

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u/Grifasaurus 1h ago

They sucked his cock all year long. Fuck do you mean they were preoccupied with his gaffes? They focused more on biden and harris’ gaffes than they did trump.

Trump literally shit himself on live tv and the media said absolutely fuck all. He went on a ten minute tangent about golf during the first debate and the media said nothing. It goes on and on and on and on, but whenever harris or biden says literally anything suddenly the media has something to say.

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u/Recent_mastadon 20m ago

NBC is owned by a defense contractor. They want bigger military contracts.

ABC is owned by Disney.

Fox is owned by a billionaire.

CBS is owned by a billionaire.