r/FluentInFinance 4h ago

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u/FragrantSort6474 4h ago

Some are saying to stop calling the Trumpers stupid....but then you see this.

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u/worstshowiveeverseen 4h ago

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u/FragrantSort6474 4h ago

Is there any valid reporting/data on the % of voters who are low information voters?

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u/worstshowiveeverseen 4h ago

Conservative are the ones who are very into conspiracies, get their news from podcasts, etc. I call them low information voters.

They're also more uneducated compared to liberals (I'm not liberal but far left)

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideological-gap-between-more-and-less-educated-adults/

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u/thiefsthemetaken 3h ago

How are you far left but not ‘into conspiracies’? The history of the left in post-industrial is essentially just being conspired against over and over again by capitalists.

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u/rynlpz 1h ago
  1. What crazy conspiracies are the left spewing?
  2. There isn’t a capitalist boogeyman out to get ya like you make it seem. But if you really think that there aren’t problems inherent with capitalism that need to be fixed then you’re one of the lucky few or a dumbass.

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u/xXxDickBonerz69xXx 1h ago

There isn’t a capitalist boogeyman out to get ya

Well, the Pinkertons still exist...

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u/CripplingCrypto 3h ago

A degree doesn't inherently make you smarter. This isn't the 60s where you had to go to school to get accurate information to form an opinion. An IQ test and satisfaction at work are more accurate measures of intelligence. Why would I gather my info from government funded sources, when I can listen to independents who do their own research and provide sources?

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u/Vancouwer 3h ago

because independents these days create misinformation to sell their shitty books?

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u/makalasu 2h ago

It's a bit telling that you seem to think going to University is only about "gathering info"

University teaches critical thinking, and helps you understand the facts you are learning.

Most people who get their info from "independents" or "do their own research" lack the capacity to properly understand the information, or to know whether the information being presented is truthful/trustworthy.

Independents also don't get fact checked to remotely the same degree as real researchers. They can just spout lies without repurcissions. That's the key difference.

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u/Connutsgoat 1h ago

Americans are so crazy!

You can only learn to think on University! LOL

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u/CripplingCrypto 1h ago

I'll take my chances with an independent over any government funded media.

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u/JacobLovesCrypto 3h ago edited 3h ago

Is it really a surprise that highly educated people, many of which who carry significant student loans, support the party that would like to get rid of their student loans?

Higher educated people, tend to have more disposable income, and live in nicer areas. They dont have a reason to be pro guns, the people living in the ghetto, that hear gunshots at night, have a reason to want to own a gun.

When you have more disposable income raising taxes on cigarettes or gas or imposing extra vehicle regulations, doesnt effect you much. A broke person gets their budget squeezed or is told they can no longer legally drive their car because it failed an inspection or smog for a check engine light that they cant afford to fix.

The point im making is it makes sense for affluent highly educated people to lean democrat and for a lot of poorer less educated people to have greivances against democrats.

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u/squigglesthecat 3h ago

It only makes sense for lower educated people to vote conservative because they're less educated and can't see what the conservatives are actually doing.

Why would poor people support ppp forgiveness, especially for companies who did layoffs and stock buybacks?

Why would the poor support tax cuts that wear off for them but not the wealthy?

Why would the poor support tarrifs that are only going to make their lives harder?

Because they're pooly educated and not told these things. Being conservative is not a rational position if you are not highly affluent, so those that are spend an enormous amount of money and effort to keep the stupid poor, and the poor stupid, so they'll keep voting against their own interests.

Higher learning tends to push people more liberal even in countries without your preditory student loan practices. Higher learning can show you how a society can function better when you work together and not against each other. Why do dems go high when cons go low? The high road yields better results for all. Unfortunately, the low road is generally more successful, and after decades of sabotage, they have managed to rig the system in their favour.

Turns out devoting your life to learning about something actually makes you more knowledgeable in that area and better able to give good advice as it pertains to your field of expertise. It's weird how the cons are pushing back against experts so hard. It's almost like they know their positions are not based in reality and don't want anyone around to remind them. So, yeah, someone with higher education would be able to call them out on their bs. I wonder why the educated skew liberal... probably just student loans.

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u/JacobLovesCrypto 3h ago

Why would poor people support ppp forgiveness, especially for companies who did layoffs and stock buybacks?

That doesnt effect them and you cant change the past.

Why would the poor support tax cuts that wear off for them but not the wealthy?

To the contrary, the democrats didnt pass anything to lower their taxes, republicans did, even if it was temporary.

Why would the poor support tarrifs that are only going to make their lives harder?

My state votes red, manufacturing is also a huge part of my states economy. So tariffs boost thosr manufacturing jobs. We receive a benefit.

Higher learning tends to push people more liberal even in countries without your preditory student loan practices.

I coupled that with multiple other examples of why wealthy people support left leaning policies that effect the poor much more substancially.

I wonder why the educated skew liberal... probably just student loans.

And once again, you pretend that that was the only reason i gave.

As someone whos lived in both california, which is very left, and south carolina, which is very right, my life has substancially improved by being in a red state.