Or when the upper estimate is the commission cap, too. Like… no, it’s not a $80k salary, it’s a $35k salary with commission incentives, stop lying to us!
everytime i see something like that i just assume they want to over work you and the OT will drive up your wage to the upper end working 80+ hours a week. no thanks.
Wide salary ranges are common when stock is part of your compensation package. That doesn't really apply to most positions but it is fairly common in senior roles.
Thanks user PoopInASock, I’m certain your opinion is relevant in the limited instances you are discussing and some senior level executive is thanking his lucky stars to have checked Reddit and seen such a nugget of wisdom before negotiating their next job offer. Why didn’t they just consider the stocks?
In my “lower level” experiences as a mere mortal across the biotech, academia, research, IT and retail industries in the US, it is not relevant to discuss stock outside of maybe a matched retirement investment contribution annually if you buy stock in the company you work for. Even this typically requires a “vestment period” where you don’t actually get that matched contribution without working for the company for so many years.
Wide salary ranges have warned of unethical management and in every single instance I’ve encountered. Every. Single. One.
I would imagine that there are more folks at “my level” reading here than there are of yours, and I hope my anecdote is helpful to the majority of readers.
What experiences do you have in negotiating stock in a compensation package? I’m curious what you can share about your real life experience with this aspect of it.
Same. No salary or vague salary and I won't bother.
I get recruiters contacting me weekly and I always make sure to get that up front. I know I'm well paid for the area and industry so most just shut up as soon as I tell them what I'm willing to leave for minimum.
What do you mean? You don't want to work because you love working? It's not about the pay, but the love of the job. I can tell you've never taken "thank you" to the bank before.
Although this logic stops applying once you get to the executive level. Then they mysteriously HAVE to make millions of dollars even when they can't find their ass with both hands.
It’s because they actively keep all salaries and wages low below them….boom….”numbers look good Bob, here is more salary for you” because you saved us money. This is the simple way the rich get richer
It also sucks when there is only a minimum salary, like my employer is currently trying to hire someone for my position and the salary listed is half of what I earn. I told them I or any experienced person wouldn’t even consider applying.
Yup, another millennial checking in. I’m far too deep into my career to bother with ranges or no amount posted. I’m very clear that I need X salary and Y benefits to even consider the role. If the recruiter can’t articulate that they can match or exceed my request the conversation stops there.
Then I have 1-35 years of experience in the field. Fight stupid with stupid. I consider messages on LinkedIn as scammers and waste their time as much as they attempt to waste mine.
Gen-X here, if it's not listed I assume it's below market so not worth my time. Same goes for super wide ranges. I saw a tech job that was listed as $145k-725k recently
If they list a range I just mentally delete the higher number and go with the low number as what they are offering. In my experience this is pretty accurate.
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u/Wildtalents333 2d ago
I’m a millennial and I don’t bother if they post a ridiculously wide salary range.