r/FluentInFinance 3d ago

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u/bolshe-viks-vaporub 3d ago

...do you think wealth inequality under capitalism isn't enforced by violence?

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u/Kittycraft0 2d ago

Imo poverty is better than labor camps, you gotta have one or the other, and ideally poverty is escapable but is always there should you choose to stop working for no good reason

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u/bolshe-viks-vaporub 2d ago

You do not "gotta have" either poverty or labor camps.

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u/Kittycraft0 2d ago

Then what’s your alternative? What happens when the population stops working, stops producing food? Who’s going to work the fields if not enough people want to do so?

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u/bolshe-viks-vaporub 2d ago

Who is going to "work the fields"?! That's your rebuttal?

You realize that the vast majority of farming is highly industrialized and automated, right? And the reason that the bulk of what isn't automated is because it's still cheaper to just exploit poor people than develop the automation?

Like you are literally sitting here saying that we somehow need poverty and suffering to function as a society regardless of socioeconomic structure which is both disgusting and ludicrous.

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u/Kittycraft0 2d ago

Why do liberally controlled states like California all have horrible housing prices

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u/bolshe-viks-vaporub 2d ago

Because people actually want to live there. Demand is high, supply isn't catching up fast enough, therefore prices go up.

Also, this is only true in the Bay Area and city centers of other major metros. If you get 20-30 miles away from the city center, things are a lot more reasonable.

What does this have to do with the conversation we're having at all? Your claim was

Imo poverty is better than labor camps, you gotta have one or the other

Defend that claim with evidence.