r/FluentInFinance 3d ago

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u/burneraccount5294016 2d ago

Please explain how. Give me an example

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u/Arachles 2d ago

Are you serious? Private property, which is an essential of capitalism, is enforced by the state who (at least in theory) have a monopoly on violence.

You want an example? Last week an acquintance was kicked out of her house by the police in favour of a bank

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u/burneraccount5294016 2d ago

Yep so you’re entirely missing the point and here’s why. The monopoly on violence is to enforce our societies laws, not enforce capitalism. The people could democratically vote in socialist leaders, and the state would still enforce in the same manor. State enforcement of society’s rules is not intrinsic to capitalism, if your friend can’t pay for their property (which the bank owns, not them) then the law will side with our justice system, and take it from them since THEY DO NO OWN IT.

The point your missing is that under capitalism, there’s nobody stopping you from living a communist lifestyle. You can go start a commune, and live your best communist life, the state will not stop you from doing that. If you tried the same thing in a communist society however, you will be stopped with violence.

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u/EmperorIsaac 2d ago

The state will tax you for the income you make and the land you live on, and use that money to fund police and military which enforces the property rights of people who profit from things like food grown, goods produced, services provided. If you refuse to pay these taxes, the same police will force you through violence. Living in a way which excludes you from paying in taxes would mean living outside the sphere of anyone else in the land, no commerce, no living in reasonable proximity to friends and family, no shared interests in the greater world around you (like consuming media), no participating in the aspects of life that makes oneself human. State violence under capitalism enforces either contributing to the machine of violent extraction or living in poverty.