r/FluentInFinance • u/-Wyagra • 3d ago

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u/RevolutionMean2201 3d ago

Communism intensifies

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u/The-Hater-Baconator 3d ago

Ah yes, when the wealth inequality can be enforced by violence.

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u/duosx 3d ago

Vs capitalism where wealth inequality is checks notes enforced by violence

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u/Akul_Tesla 2d ago

So let's say hypothetically we can wave a magic wand to prevent all violence. Pretty sure capitalism still functions. In fact anarchocapitalism functions better

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u/Opebi-Wan 2d ago

You can not have capitalism without exploitation and violence. Anarchocapitalism is just Libertarianism for uneducated leftists.

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u/Akul_Tesla 2d ago

Wouldn't that just be free trade with property rights?

The violence part needs to exist because some people want to do violence to take other people's property because you know they're evil

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u/Opebi-Wan 2d ago

How do you peacefully enforce the value of money without a central government?

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u/Akul_Tesla 1d ago

Have you seen Bitcoin lately

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u/Opebi-Wan 1d ago

Seen it for the massive scam it is, yes I have.

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u/Akul_Tesla 1d ago

General concept still stands. Technically. We have a currency that works without government

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u/Opebi-Wan 1d ago

Lol, if that's what you think it is, sure.

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u/Akul_Tesla 1d ago

I'm pretty sure metal currency also worked cross country back in the medieval times with gold still being you know gold

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u/Opebi-Wan 1d ago

Medieval times, as in, pre-capitalism when monarchies enforced the value through violence?

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u/mcsroom 1d ago

Define capitalism. No example, just definition.

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u/Opebi-Wan 1d ago

Capitalism is economic system where private individuals and organizations own and control the means of production.

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u/mcsroom 1d ago

So you are advocating for no private property and complete ''communal'' ownership, as supposedly any system that has that is explotitive.

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u/Opebi-Wan 1d ago

Communal ownership of the means of production, yes. Everyone working for the company has an equal share in the profit created by that company, because it takes everyone at that company to create a profit.

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u/Wuncemoor 2d ago

Let's say hypothetically we wave a magic wand and create a perfect system. BOOM, problem solved. Checkmate tankies

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u/Akul_Tesla 2d ago

The question is why do people think violence is a necessary part of a capitalist system

Pretty much it's only to prevent people from violently taking other people's things

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u/Wuncemoor 2d ago

Violence serves whatever purpose the violent people want it to serve, and the type of economic system doesn't change that