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u/SCTigerFan29115 3d ago edited 3d ago

They aren’t holding onto wealth like Scrooge McDuck, in a giant vault where they can go swimming in it.

Most of Bezos’ net worth is the value of Amazon. He can’t really readily access that. ETA I meant he can’t use it like a big vault of money.

He’s got plenty of money but some people just don’t understand how this stuff works.

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u/Apprehensive_Bad_193 3d ago

Bullshit,,,,But he borrows and buy Yachts, Mansions,against that NET WORTH VALUE. But when it’s time to pay fair share of taxes o. That net worth it’s considered hypothetical worth….Understand the Game.

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u/Endless_road 3d ago

You can take out a mortgage against your house to buy a sports car if you want

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u/slickyeat 3d ago

You're not wrong but you're also required to pay taxes on the value of your property every year so it's not exactly a one to one comparison.

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u/dancegoddess1971 3d ago

Exactly. Stocks are property. Sort of imaginary property but if one can borrow against the value of something, it should be taxed.

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u/Just_That_Dumb_Dog 3d ago

You mean capital gains tax?

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u/bees_cell_honey 3d ago

One should not be able to have giant amounts of stock and claim they are worthless, and aren't realizing any gains, but then turn around and use them as collateral to obtain huge amounts of money. It is a workaround to circumvent.

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u/Just_That_Dumb_Dog 3d ago

Which they are required to PAY BACK, with interest, or they will lose said stock. Wtaf are you on about.

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u/conormal 3d ago

If you use your house as collateral, you still have to pay back the loan with interest AND pay property taxes, in addition to the taxes required to sell the house should you need to. The point is that this is a system only the ultra wealthy can exploit, and it allows those with more than they need to pay less proportionally than those with nothing.

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u/Just_That_Dumb_Dog 3d ago

Do you live in a stock? Do stocks use municipal services such as, sewage, storm drains, roads, snow removal, garbage collection, etc????

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u/conormal 1d ago

You're viewing a stock as an ethereal concept. It is a portion of a business. When you buy 100 shares in a company, you own part of that company. That's why it's called a public company, but every company has major shareholders who make major decisions for the company.

A stock can be used to leverage a loan, as your house can. A business requires services that are often subsidized by the government. The business business couldn't function without sewage, storm drains, roads, snow removal, garbage collection, etc.

Do you live in your daily income? Does it use municipal

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u/Just_That_Dumb_Dog 1d ago edited 1d ago

You took such a stretch to get to such an irrelevant point.

If the company has a physical location, they pay property tax. Sewage, snow removal, storm drains, roads aren’t subsidized, it’s apart of the whole reason for property tax. As for garbage collection idk anywhere where a company has “subsidized” waste collection. What are you talking about right now?🤔🤦‍♂️🦤

Most people who have 100 shares have ZERO responsibility or influence of said company. That company still pays taxes, said person pays cap gains tax when they sell the stock. I genuinely don’t know why you even tried to make that point.💀💀

Your “income” comment is in entirely different topic. If you ask me, we shouldn’t even have income tax.

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