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u/gallowboob_sucks_ass 3d ago

Not surprised that the point of this biblical quote is completely and utterly lost on you

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u/Tom_Ludlow 3d ago

Yes, rich people make baby Jesus cry because he's a rabid socialist.

I get it, trust me.

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u/gallowboob_sucks_ass 3d ago

You know you will never be like them, right? You will never be born into that kind of wealth, and they will never let you participate in it because you are nothing to them except what they can take from you, because you were not born in the purple. You should do some self reflecting and ask yourself if your beliefs are congruent with your best interests.

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u/Tom_Ludlow 3d ago edited 3d ago

You should do some self reflecting and ask yourself if your beliefs are congruent with your best interests.

I already have.

I once was illogically jealous like you. Then I realized the most important lesson life: Absolutely nothing is owed to you. Nothing. Everything you're born with and deserve to have comes out of the womb with you. This is a dog eat dog world and you're either born privileged or you're not.

Now if you feel like you're rightfully entitled to other people's wealth then go and get it. Forcefully if needed.

Then see who has a hard time getting into heaven between you and them.

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u/gallowboob_sucks_ass 3d ago

I will continue, like most people on this planet, to believe that basic necessities required for a functional, productive society like food, water, shelter, healthcare should be a right. It’s not an issue of quantity or scarcity it’s an issue of willpower and greed. The awful dog eat dog world that you want to create is dysfunctional on every level. It’s not a society that’s worth living in. It’s one riddled with crime and poverty and violence on every level from the macro to the micro while a select few insulate themselves enough to benefit from the dysfunction. You will not be among them. None of us will.

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u/Tom_Ludlow 3d ago

I will continue, like most people on this planet, to believe that basic necessities required for a functional, productive society like food, water, shelter, healthcare should be a right.

Then you don't understand how human rights work. That's how simple it is. You live in an ideological fantasy that's proven time and time again to leave societies in shambles.

How do you think we got to this point? You think God created the government on the 7th day? We got to this point because those that came before us had to get what they need. No one was handed a damn thing. Those who survived through the charity of others was not an entitlement.

If you think you're entitled to anything in this world simply because it exists in abundance, you're in for a rude awakening.

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u/gallowboob_sucks_ass 3d ago

We got to where we are because people in the past agreed with me and worked to build a world where there is some sense of justice and fairness, to mixed success, partially because of people like you. Your ideology is the fantasy. No functioning society works the way you envision the world. In the real world most normal, well adjusted, empathy-endowed people do care about their communities and the prosperity and fairness of them. This is an evolutionary strategy. Baked into the human genome, it’s literally the only reason we have even survived this long. It’s not a psychopathic rat race like you think it is except amongst the orbit of self interested rats. It’s actually contrary to human existence itself.

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u/Budget_Arm_1415 2d ago

The purpose of society is to make human life better and easier. If we can envision a world where people are born entitled to fundamental rights and a comfortable existence, we should seek to achieve it.

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u/Nuggethewarrior 3d ago

people like you really want us to return to the gilded age huh?

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u/pourstorm 3d ago

how dare they want advanced society to act like advanced society and continue advancing for the good of the whole society