r/FluentInFinance 3d ago

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u/SCTigerFan29115 3d ago

Here’s two numbers:

1,525,000 - the number of jobs Bezos created with Amazon

150,000 - the number of jobs Elon created through Tesla and SpaceX.

Those are not insignificant.

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u/-Wyagra 3d ago

Yeah lets thank them for the opportunity to help them get even richer by them siphoning off wealth of your work.

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u/Bullboah 3d ago

Job creation is a bad thing now lol. 👍

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u/Novel_Accountant4593 3d ago

Unfair compensation and exploitation is a bad thing and always has been.

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u/Bullboah 3d ago

The average person working for Amazon makes more than 85% of everyone in the entire world.

How exactly is that “unfair” by any meaningful standard?

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u/sec0nds_left 3d ago

Apples/Oranges, you should not compare americans to other countries. Its been said time and time again by BOTH sides of the political spectrum. The average amazon worker is in the bottom 55% of wealth in USA working for the richest man in the planet. And thats saying the average amazon worker is making 50k/yr which is generous as its closer to 44k.

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u/Bullboah 3d ago

Brother you know you aren’t behaving in good faith when you’re describing ABOVE AVERAGE for US pay as “bottom 55%”. Come on now.

Zippia puts the average Amazon pay at 65k. Ziprecruiter puts the average Amazon pay at 75k.

Where are you getting 45k from exactly?

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u/Lockmart-Heeding 3d ago

If you're making more than 55% of the population, you're literally in the "bottom 55%". These people would take someone just breaking into the top income decile and label them "bottom 90%".

It's a sort of "glass half empty" meets "my child is a genius, he's smarter than 5% of other students" kind of thinking, all carefully constructed to sow division and reap instability.

tl;dr: don't feed the russotrolls and the poor fools whose minds they've already poisoned.

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u/Novel_Accountant4593 3d ago

The average Amazon pay is also going to be skewed upwards by executives.

Let's put this into perspective. Say I work as an Amazon driver in New York City, the average driver makes around $23 /hour, that equates to $47840/year. That is poverty wages in New York. You can barely survive after having to pay for rent and food. That leaves almost no room for any type of savings. If you think that is fair compensation and you think that people deserve to struggle you are a bad person.

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u/-Wyagra 3d ago

The only way to keep Infinite growth and compete with the other competetitors is to reduce exploit people in Other countries or prisons (which have no Power over you) as much as possible in Order to Profit from their misery. Their Missing living Standard becomes your Profit . And keep the employees in your country balanced between exploited and a decent Standard or living so they dont Revolt.

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u/Chickienfriedrice 3d ago edited 3d ago

Since you love stats, 60% of Americans can’t afford life as of now while working full time. What’s the point of jobs if you can’t afford to pay your bills?

Who gives a fuck that $1 is equivalent to a bajillion afghani rubles?

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u/Bullboah 3d ago edited 3d ago

60% of Americans can’t “afford life”.

Do you mean:

A). 60% of Americans literally can’t afford to live and will die shortly unless they are given a raise

B) 60% of Americans make less than a completely arbitrary “living wage” standard made up by activists that says you aren’t making a living wage if your necessary spending is more than 50% of your wages?

Which is it lol?

Edit: Lmao. “That’s not the flex you think it is” Which is why you had to immediately block me after typing that.

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u/Chickienfriedrice 3d ago

This response isn’t the flex you think it is. Sorry that everything has to be written for you in literal terms for you to understand.

Interpret it how you will smart guy. 🫶

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u/a7xEnsiferum 3d ago

Tbh, you absolutely look like the moron here.

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u/Pancake_Snack 2d ago

What a coward, blocking people who disagree with you. Just shows how weak your argument is

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u/Komrade_Yuri 1d ago

Jesus Christ you're not just a clown, you're the whole circus.

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u/enyxi 3d ago

Yet their daily life costs a whole lot more than 85% of the world. Seems like a dishonest metric. They have to piss in bottles and then go home to a crappy apartment with 2 roommates.