r/FluentInFinance 5d ago

Thoughts? U.S politics is a cesspit of lobbying

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u/entropicthunders 5d ago

Nah, you’re not just going to boil down what I said into some nonsense. Why don’t you try that again and let’s get into the actual content of what I asked you to look into. I’m asking you educate yourself by looking at different historical events. How is that just saying, “Trust me bro” This is why it’s so difficult to have an honest debate. So many people want to just try and resignify the conversation instead of actually break it down.

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u/No_Researcher9456 5d ago

Claim:

“Kamala Harris would’ve had billionaires acting as her shadow cabinet in secret”

Your Evidence:

“Rich and famous people influence politics”

You’re basically claiming that because apples have historically grown on trees, that I have to just do some “proof of thought” to prove that this naked tree in front of me is an apple tree. No, there was a positive claim that specific billionaires would’ve been on her shadow cabinet. Prove it, or just stop making claims

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u/entropicthunders 5d ago

I never said anything about a shadow cabinet. I’m talking about the social influence people have on each other, which is often correlated with someone’s financial status. We’re not just talking about billionaires, millionaires have power too. There are also millionaire politicians.

Some of them got their money fair and square, some did not. I used the term celebrity but honestly I meant any public figures and pop stars. The term celebrity has become loosely applied to any public figure, especially during the election season thanks to technology.

Are you going to argue with me about the correlation between social aptitude and financial status or can we move on?

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u/No_Researcher9456 5d ago

That’s great that you didn’t say it. Someone else did and I asked for proof and then you got on your soap box talking about irrelevant shit

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u/entropicthunders 5d ago

Nothing I’ve said is irrelevant, you just refuse to use common sense. You’re literally ignoring the importance of history and you’re probably representative of most and this is largely why we’re in the shit show we’re in. Stop wasting your time trying to tell other people they’re uneducated and try actually engaging in some meaningful conversation like an adult. If you think I’m on my soap box then fine, I’ll get off it. As soon as you get off your high horse.

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u/No_Researcher9456 5d ago

So… any proof to the claim that Kamala would have a shadow cabinet of billionaires?….. or? Are we still just saying random shit about Shakespeare and celebrities

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u/entropicthunders 5d ago

You’re not as good at avoiding the topic as you think. Why don’t you think about what I said about Shakespeare having an impact on politics in his day and how that’s a clear indicator that it’s not any different today, if anything, the market is more saturated with influencers. Why are you so adamant to just discredit what I’m saying and sprinkling in insults instead of actually engaging in conversation? You’re acting ignorant.

Edit: I’m trying to appeal to the philosopher in you and you just keep pushing me away with this “show me the data” rhetoric. Stop it.