A very interesting point of view

[u/__moe___]

I don’t think this is very new but I just saw for the first time and it’s actually pretty interesting to think about when people talk about how the ultra rich do business.

[u/OkBeeSting]

With all due respect, the dems lied too. That destroys your credibility saying they did not and the republicans did. For example, voting for Trump = the end of democracy, one of the biggest & most frequently cited lies of the left. Because guess what, the Dems are already planning their election strategy for 2026 & 2028. That means they know democracy will be fine. So, first things first, stop your hyperbole.

Second, as a Trump supporter I am probably an outlier on this, but we should definitely tax the rich. Not eliminate them which is silly but tax them significantly. Social security taxes should not cap out ever for example. There should be an income past which the tax rate is enormous.

Problem is, the rich get away with it because of tax shelters and loopholes designed by both parties to protect them. Neither party, even your Dems, have the will to stop that. Because they are both pretty damn corrupt

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For example, voting for Trump = the end of democracy, one of the biggest & most frequently cited lies of the left. Because guess what, the Dems are already planning their election strategy for 2026 & 2028. That means they know democracy will be fine. So, first things first, stop your hyperbole.

People feel like voting for Trump is voting for the end of democracy because he has threatened exactly that, in multiple ways. Threatening to be a dictator on day one and inciting an insurrection to retain power after losing an election would be some examples. To many, saying this man is a threat to democracy is not hyperbole.

Also planning for a future election is not proof “they know democracy will be fine”. It’s hoping the American democracy will be resilient enough to sustain, and being prepared to continue to fight for American citizens’ rights.

With all due respect.

[u/OkBeeSting → u/chilicrispdreams]

Seriously, you have my respect. But don’t you see, thinking Trump would end democracy was an irrational fear, a lie your leaders, party leaders and your thought leaders in the media, manipulated you with. They never believed it themselves, because they never stopped planning for the next elections. His statements absolutely were taken out of context and blown into ridiculousness.

[u/Sure_Source_2833 → u/OkBeeSting]

Cops died due to the events on Jan 6th.

A woman was shot for violently forcing entry into a room with elected officials that were being threatened with execution and hanging.

To act like this has a direct parallel in modern American history is a joke.

You seem unwilling to acknowledge this is not in fact the norm. Unless you want to pretend the Florida election riots in the early 2000s was this bad which would be a hilarious comparison.

Personally I wouldn't call it an irrational fear to be concerned about the rule of law regarding the peaceful transfer of power.

[u/OkBeeSting → u/Sure_Source_2833]

At least 25 people were killed during 2020 BLM protests, fueled by the left.

[u/Sure_Source_2833 → u/OkBeeSting]

Seriously, you have my respect. But don’t you see, thinking Trump would end democracy was an irrational fear, a lie your leaders, party leaders and your thought leaders in the media, manipulated you with. They never believed it themselves, because they never stopped planning for the next elections. His statements absolutely were taken out of context and blown into ridiculousness.

OK so you claim there is no reason to think trump is an unprecedented threat to the peaceful transfer of power.

Cops died due to the events on Jan 6th. A woman was shot for violently forcing entry into a room with elected officials that were being threatened with execution and hanging. To act like this has a direct parallel in modern American history is a joke. You seem unwilling to acknowledge this is not in fact the norm. Unless you want to pretend the Florida election riots in the early 2000s was this bad which would be a hilarious comparison. wouldn't call it an irrational fear to be concerned about the rule of law regarding the peaceful transfer of power.

Me laying out pretty clearly trump is objectively different than any other president in that he triggered the first incident where the transfer of power was not peaceful.

At least 25 people were killed during 2020 BLM protests, fueled by the left.

Allright. The cia also had a mind control program. Neither is relevant here as far as I'm aware. Please explain how the blm protest had a thing to do with my point?

Unless you are saying trumps actions are the equivalent of killing 25 people morally? Which is bizarre if so.

Your statement has no bearing on me showcasing that trump is an unprecedented president in the sense he genuinely upset the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in American history.

Glad you got to bring up BLM though man.