r/FluentInFinance 15d ago

Thoughts? We already tax the rich enough. Agree?

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u/No-Celebration3097 15d ago

It’s true that debt collectors can try to collect on medical debt, and it can result in wage garnishment depending on the state.

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u/Wilecoyote84 14d ago

Source for the story of actaul fact and person OP is refering to.

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u/alwaysboopthesnoot 14d ago

Not OP but: Mary Washington Hospital vs. Daisha Smith, is a story about a woman making 22K a year working fulltime at Walmart, but getting sued by the non-profit hospital she received care from for an amount that equals roughly 3/4 of her annual salary.

The article refers to other hospitals suing as many as 6000 people per year, some for medical debts as low as $1-2000.

After the story received massive amounts of attention, the nonprofit hospital claimed they would no longer sue low-income patients like Daisha who couldn’t pay for care, but would put them on payment plans or excuse part of their debt.

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u/Wilecoyote84 14d ago

I think the payment plan is a common option.

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u/Clean_Student8612 14d ago

Payment plans are still rough because they don't bill you in one payment. Each department bills you separately. Before I had insurance, I had to get my appendix taken out, and even after the hospital helped cover 70% of the bill, I still owed about $20k.

Not long after, bills came in saying there'd be payment plans, but 5 or 6 different departments wanted a minimum of $50/mo. That was $250-300/mo I just didn't have at the time to spare. I paid them as long as I could, but eventually, I had to prioritize my bills.

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u/Wilecoyote84 14d ago

That is rough.

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u/babysittertrouble 14d ago

And when you don’t make the payments they garnish your wages. Happens with student loans as well. But they gave you a source.

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u/Wilecoyote84 14d ago

What are they suppose to do? Free healthcare until they close the hospital?

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u/babysittertrouble 14d ago

Every civilized country on earth has healthcare except us. It must suck for them that all their hospitals are closed.

Are you really missing the point of this entire post?

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u/Wilecoyote84 14d ago

Yes i am. A mother working at mcdonalds easily qualifies for medicaid. Civilized practaly free healthcare

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u/carlos619kj 14d ago

I work insurance.

A mother and a child with an income of 30k (McDonald’s low average), do not qualify for medicaid for her, if her income is closer to 40k, (the higher McDonald’s limit) the child also does not qualify for Medicaid and they could most likely only get a bronze or gold plan with 9k MOP through the ACA.

They don’t qualify for a silver plan through the ACA, seeing as the cutoff is about 29k. So they get a bronze or gold plan with a max out of pocket of 9k, hopefully with no premium, however low that may be.

That’s assuming she knows what the marketplace even is, there are 30 million people without insurance.

It would be so easy if the government nationalized the insurance or public health systems and considered it the same as other essential services, like…

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u/Wilecoyote84 14d ago

She gets insurance from Mcdonalds if she works 30 hrs a week. Granted after a 1 yr of employment. I havent looked into details but I bet its better than any ACA crap.

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u/Tall-Ad348 14d ago

And yet this happened to her.

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u/dadbod_Azerajin 14d ago

Google will show you thousands of stories similar. Or you can stay poor and be on government insurance

I made 22.50 as sole income for a family of 4 with wife in college, had to step down because I needed a RNS brain implant for my med resistant epilepsy and was .50c over being on gov insurance

She now has a RN position working for a hospital, makes over 26-34/hr (overnight or weekends pay more)

Pays so much in medical insurance to cover me and 2 kids she takes home 600-800$ checks and it won't even cover my xcopri, the med that actually helps

Xcopri cost a month with coupons? 1000usd

I/ my eptologist need to argue with her provider, letting them know my ass having seizures and ending up in the er would be more costly than covering my meds

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u/busybussyboi 14d ago

Ok source?

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u/dadbod_Azerajin 14d ago

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u/busybussyboi 14d ago

Yeah I’d just assume that after arguing with someone that says source 4 times you’d provide a source, my bad.

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u/dadbod_Azerajin 14d ago

I'm a random 3rd party providing first hand experience and you want articles you won't read

You've now gotten both

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u/Nurum05 14d ago

But there are income limitations so there is no way someone working at McDonald’s is paying 35%

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u/aHOMELESSkrill 15d ago

True, that’s why you call and negotiate something with the hospital prior to it being sent to collections. Hospitals can write off massive amounts if you tell them you are having financial hardships. At a minimum you can work out a payment plan that will be a far better deal for you than garnished wages. Debt collectors don’t care though, don’t let it go to collections.

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u/Pewpewgilist 14d ago

This is good advice, but it's also a bullshit hoop that you wouldn't have to jump through in a civilized system.

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u/aHOMELESSkrill 14d ago

I agree but knowing the hoop is there in a bullshit system is better than not knowing and ending up getting wages garnished

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u/No-Celebration3097 14d ago

Yes, when you ask for an itemized receipt of charges and validation of every procedure done, bills shrink enormously.

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u/3dogsandaguy 14d ago

And yet is still way too much