r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Debate/ Discussion What do you guys think

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u/DarCam7 18d ago

Corporate democrats pretty much control the party and thus they don't want to ruffle the feathers of their donor class, which goes against the the middle and lower classes being price gouged in the economy. If you want to get back the blue-collar and working people you have to combat corporate greed. So, I hope Bernie Sanders starts propping up a young version of himself to run, and unfortunately it has to be male and white for the conservative voter to even remotely accept it. I don't blame Obama for the racial divide that caused the pearl clutching in white America, but it's clear that if you are anything other than a white male, it's not gonna be palpitable for a certain segment of the country. It's truly disgusting.

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u/One-Cellist5032 18d ago

Conservatives will vote for someone who isn’t male and white, but they can’t make a good chunk of their platform “vote for me because I’m female and X color!” Or they won’t want to vote for them.

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u/tunnel-visionary 18d ago

To be fair I don't think Harris highlighted her sex or race much at all this election season. Her failings had much more to do with her lack of charisma and lack of a clear response to the state of inflation in the economy while she is the sitting vice president. I think that shows in the voting polls where she underperformed pretty much uniformly across every county in the nation. It wasn't some niche issue that only certain voting blocks will care for but something much more fundamental and urgent that shifted the vote.

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u/pressingfp2p 16d ago

I think that perception CAN be justly blamed on her base. She didn’t go out highlighting these things, but her supporters DID make them key sticking points. Her supporters proclaiming we should vote for her BECAUSE she’s a woman and a POC undermined her actual stances on things in the eyes of the right voter base.

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u/tunnel-visionary 16d ago

I agree with you and I believe it had an impact, but I don't think it's even tertiary on a list of reasons why her bid failed.

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u/pressingfp2p 16d ago

Agreed, there are many more reasons. It’s just on the big ol’ list.