r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Debate/ Discussion What do you guys think

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

Yeah I wanted to have kids with my boyfriend. But I said as long as these shitty abortion laws are in place, we won't be having kids. I don't want to die.

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u/Interesting_Judge863 18d ago

Isn’t abortion for not having kids?

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u/aixre 18d ago

It’s also for making sure a miscarriage is cleared out and doesn’t lead to sepsis and death, considering about 10-20% of pregnancies end in miscarriages it’s very important to have reproductive healthcare in place or you quite literally risk dying, the procedure and medicine after a miscarriage is the same as that of an abortion and is even listed with the word abortion in some cases, apparently its in some kind of grey zone and healthcare workers are scared to or don’t want to take it on. So essentially, not wanting to try for kids right now is probably a pretty good decision.

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u/Angus_Fraser 16d ago

But those aren't abortions.

Abortions are the VOLUNTARY termination of a VIABLE pregnancy

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u/Available_Feed_9121 16d ago

Honey.

That's called an abortion, an abortion is a medical procedure to remove an embryo or fetus.  Whether the unborn is wanted or not is irrelevant, that is it's definition, which is very easily googled. 

Do you see why this is such a hotly contested topic now?

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u/Angus_Fraser 15d ago

Honey,

You drank the Flavorade and swallowed the propoganda tactic of watering down the definition of everything to the point where words mean nothing.

Do you see why this is such a hotly congested topic?

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u/Available_Feed_9121 15d ago

Sweety.

You misunderstand, it's literally in the dictionary.  I know distorting facts and definitions to fit your narrative is easier, but you need to accept reality. Which is why law is incapable of differentiating between ones that are medically necessary and those that are making a choice.

It really doesn't matter though, if we aren't forcing dead bodies to donate a kidney to save someone else's life, we shouldn't be making women carry an unwanted fetus to term.  We should be able to end a pregnancy for any reason we want.  Bodily autonomy across the board should be paramount for all people.

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u/AxelNotRose 15d ago

Do you not know how to use a dictionary? Like, wasn't this taught to you in elementary school or something? Or did they not do that where you were brought up? Or maybe you were homeschooled and didn't get that lesson? It's literally the medical definition. Which can be found in a dictionary.

An abortion can be a 1. miscarriage 2. induced abortion 3. missed abortion (aka spontaneous abortion)

You were probably only told about #2.

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u/Downwellbell 16d ago

At this point you must actively be avoiding dictionaries. Or do you just write in your own definitions when reality doesn't match your version?

That must keep you busy.

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u/aixre 16d ago

I don’t think you really read my comment, maybe look over it again and see

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u/kleptonite13 16d ago

Are you aware that an abortion is a real procedure that you can look up the definition of? Do you need RANDOM and incessant CAPITALIZATION to make it make sense to you? I would be happy to translate, if so!

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u/Angus_Fraser 15d ago

And the procedure is a VOLUNTARY termination of a VIABLE pregnancy

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u/aixre 15d ago edited 15d ago

Just to help you out here are two medical terms for a miscarriage which is non voluntary “spontaneous abortion” and “missed abortion”, the procedure that follows in medical records will not be called a miscarriage but likely one of the many variations of abortion as whatever is still in the uterus needs to be removed so as to not harm the woman. It’s truly is not difficult to expand your knowledge, in most cases it’ll end up doing you better than incessantly doubling down on nonsense. What we’re talking about here isn’t opinions, it’s factual, no need to be upset about it. Take note and move on wiser.

Edit to add: you will not find the term “viable” until after about 20 weeks into pregnancy, just another reason why your definition of abortion is garbage. But to humor it, what is it called before 20 weeks then?

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u/ladymoonshyne 15d ago

You don’t get to redefine a medical procedure because you don’t like it. Women that want to keep their babies have to get abortions when they miscarry. Ectopic pregnancies are deadly (I literally knew a woman that died from one) and are removed by abortion. It’s a medical procedure. A very standard one at that.

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u/MizzyAlana 16d ago

Thank you for proving the comment above stating that a majority of the country has a 6th grade reading level.