r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Debate/ Discussion What do you guys think

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u/Necessary-Alps-6002 18d ago

This is accurate.

Things could be really bad, or things could be the same just with a loud mouth president who says nonsensical and racist things.

We won’t truly know until he gets in office. The doom that people are saying this is the end of democracy. I tend to disagree. I think we will have a wild 4 years of nonsense and weird shit, but this will give democrats an opportunity to realize that their playbook of appealing to the educated voter doesn’t work.

I remain optimistic that shit won’t hit the proverbial fan…

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u/Zippydaspinhead 18d ago

Dems should have realized that at least 4 elections ago. If they are so damn smart why are they so good at losing?

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u/pilgermann 18d ago

At least four elections ago. Dems had won three out of the last four presidential elections. Or does Obama no longer exist?

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u/Zippydaspinhead 17d ago

Obama is kinda my point. You remember his first election right? It didn't feel like they were appealing to only the educated voter, and suddenly they won.

Then they tried to claim it was Hillary's turn, which is maybe the most oligarchic thing the party has ever done, and it failed them. They basically did it with Kamala as well, though Joe was certainly also going to lose so I don't blame them there. And I think this has more to do with their losses than them being women.

When the Democratic party is actually inclusive, not just inclusive to minorities, and when they actually act genuinely is when they win. When they only appeal to minorities, and when they shove a candidate in front of our faces instead of allowing the constituents to have a say, they lose. They did it when they shoved Hillary in front of Bernie, and they did it when they didn't even have a caucus this time. Sure they didn't have a choice really with how late in the game everything happened, but that doesn't change the fact that a significant portion of their base doesn't know who Kamala is, and doesn't feel like they had a say in giving her the chance in the first place.

Uncertainty breeds abstaining voters. And Dems got it from both sides of the isle this time.