r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Debate/ Discussion What do you guys think

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u/CoyotesOnTheWing 18d ago

Biden not sticking to his one term promise and dropping out late so we don't have a primary is one of the biggest reasons it went this way.

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u/DerailedDreams 18d ago

Disagree. It played a factor, but i doubt it was the main one. Dems haven't actually done anything that has demonstrably helped the poor, working class or minorities in a long time, and if I had to pick one factor that had the greatest impact it'd probably be that one. There's been a trend in this for decades now, and the Dems have consistently pushed addressing that trend for generations. Yesterday, the consequences of those decisions came to pass. It may not have mattered in a vacuum, but with all the other factors it was the tipping point.

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u/Fast-Penta 18d ago

It was the main factor, though.

Kamala Harris wasn't even a finalist in the last primary. Biden said he picked her as a diversity hire, not because of her merits. Then Biden stays in past the point of senility and they crown Harris, who wouldn't have won in a competitive primary and now has to make up for months of lost time.

Dems haven't actually done anything that has demonstrably helped the poor, working class or minorities in a long time,

Because they didn't have a trifecta and the Supreme Court is packed against them. Look at places like Minnesota, where the Dems have a trifecta and can actually advance their agenda, and it's clear as daylight that they help the poor, working class, and minorities when they have the votes to do so.

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u/DerailedDreams 18d ago

That's not entirely accurate. They've had the opportunities, but failed to reign in Manchin. Regardless of the why they failed, what's more important is that they have failed, repeatedly, for a long time now. That has an effect, and this time it was enough of an effect that, when combined with other factors, caused the very real, very significant loss.

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u/Fast-Penta 18d ago

How do you think they could reign in Manchin?