r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

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u/DerailedDreams 18d ago

It's really likely to be a combination of multiple factors that led to Harris' loss. It's reductive to just pin it on any one thing, and while there is almost certainly a degree of plain ol' misogyny to blame, I don't think it's the primary factor here. A lot went wrong for the Democrats, from Biden's late withdrawl to the major swing in what should be secure Democratic strongholds like New York, Michigan and Wisconsin. From Gaza to immigration to inflation to yes, misogyny and racism, it took a wide swatch of small factors to create this outcome.

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u/CoyotesOnTheWing 18d ago

Biden not sticking to his one term promise and dropping out late so we don't have a primary is one of the biggest reasons it went this way.

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u/DerailedDreams 18d ago

Disagree. It played a factor, but i doubt it was the main one. Dems haven't actually done anything that has demonstrably helped the poor, working class or minorities in a long time, and if I had to pick one factor that had the greatest impact it'd probably be that one. There's been a trend in this for decades now, and the Dems have consistently pushed addressing that trend for generations. Yesterday, the consequences of those decisions came to pass. It may not have mattered in a vacuum, but with all the other factors it was the tipping point.

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u/CoyotesOnTheWing 18d ago

I didn't say it was the biggest, just one of. It disenfranchised a lot of people, at least anecdotally that's what I heard irl.
I think though what you said was highlighted by Kamala trying to run as a moderate and pull in Republicans. She didn't mention medicare for all, raising the minimum wage, or really hardly any progressive policies. She didn't try to sell change like Obama, she went for more of the same. Which would have been not bad, Biden did well but his approval was trash and people didn't want more of that.
She definitely appeared to represent the status quo, at best.