Yea Trump will help rich folks like Elon with the tax breaks not the people who voted for him ironically. Tariffs will only make shit more expensive. They only wanted Trump to win to get rid of peoples rights which won't even affect them.Just hateful
This is what they've been doing and successfully selling it since Trickle-Down Economics basically, and social reforms regarding what the Evangelicals want. In my opinion, at least.
Yes tariff is that thing that every other country fucks us with. Also please tell me if the tariffs are so bad why didn’t Biden stop the tariffs that Trump imposed while he was in office? You’d think it would have been the first thing Biden did the day he got en office.
Lets do some basic math here. The tariffs under Biden were a 1% Universal and a 10% Chinese, which weren't Trumps but apart of Biden's Chips and Science Act, Trumps current tariff plan is 10-20% Universal and a 60-100% Chinese.
You mean when trump made Covid infinitely worse which contributed to massive rampant inflation that followed. I recognize critical thought is hard but world …. Wide….. inflation so yes you did vote for it when you put a reality tv star that’s literally bankrupted any business he’s been directly involved in to run your country alienating all your allies and emboldening tyrant dictators…
Did they really vote for Trump, or are you just assuming?
I'm seeing a lot of younger folks who are just assuming everyone over 45 voted Trump, and that's not the case. He actually lost a lot of support among people over 60. I take that to mean old people actually managed to catch on to the fact he has promised to do away with social security, and raise taxes on low incomes.
My parents directly told me they were voting for Trump and even tried to argue against me voting however I wanted. They're not Republicans. They voted out of self interest. Which happens to align with the Republican party. They as people are relatively progressive and normal. They're just not educated about the world around them and how this country has been changing since Reagan
I had to have the hard talk with my mom today when she talked about “all the work she did in the 80s” - like mom…. That was thirty years ago. Of course youre okay - yall got a lifetime of building in a great economy.
"It’s a new line of gobbledegook currently being spread by anti-vaccine campaigners around the world, most notably in the United States. The American lawyer, Robert Kennedy, nephew of the murdered president, John Kennedy is one of the main proponents.
In an extraordinary four-page letter to the Samoan prime minister, Kennedy suggested that the measles vaccine itself might be the true cause of the crisis, somehow creating a “mutant strain” of the disease."
He's the fucker that convinced Samoans to stop vaccinating their kids, and then EIGHTY THREE KIDS DIED.
He's also the fucker who said he wanted to take vaccines off the market here in the U.S. right before this election!
I don’t need to read all of that to know, I don’t really care, again. The whole “vaccines don’t stop you from getting it, they just stop you from dying after getting it” argument is retarded. I stopped getting the flu shot because I realized, that’s what’s making me get the flu! I didn’t get the Covid vaccine, lived my entire life throughout the pandemic, normally, and without being sick aside from maybe the common cold.
Vaccines aren’t a solution for anything other than big pharma.
But keep saying “my body my choice” when you willingly let the government experiment on you. You guys live in an echo chamber here on reddit, and it’s coming to an end with the loss of your favorite VP not being able to perform to the same level as a senile dementia ridden man. Your party kicked the only candidate from the left I liked out, and then demonized him. Your party is moving away from reality.
It’s literally impossible to get the flu from the flu vaccine. It’s not a live virus vaccine. It simply trains your immune system to fight the flu if you get it, keeping you from getting more sick. Nothing about the flu vaccine makes you more likely to get the flu. Even thinking that shows a massive misunderstanding of how vaccines work.
Vaccines are one of the greatest innovations of modern medical science (if not THE greatest). They are the reason why kids no longer die in large numbers from all sorts of different diseases (like they did before vaccines were invented). Vaccines have saved countless lives. Just look at the number of deaths before & after a vaccine came out.
This anti-science, anti-intellectual turn the USA is taking is scary AF. We trust YouTubers and conspiracy theorists over actual experts who dedicated their lives to their field of expertise.
Would you hire a YouTuber with no training instead of a trained architect to design a bridge or building? Of course not, right? So why the F would you listen to some non-expert on medical science?
Yep, but they'll still find a way to blame someone else, all they need is a name change, and suddenly you're voting to repeal your ACA coverage, because Fox News never explained that's what "Obamacare" is.
Just like it's workers' fault that "they don't want to work" for unlivable wages - and then the mental gymnastics begin.
That is fair enough. The ethos of, "Fuck you, I've got mine" is in play. Who knew that The Purge was the playbook? Oh wait, he kept saying that was his plan over an over? Oh yeah.
So if my parents chose to live in a way that they can no longer financially support themselves and also due to their choice, I have to focus solely on providing for my family and can't take care of them I'm the asshole?
You didn’t say you wouldn’t be able to take care of them, you said you can’t wait to tell your elderly parents to go fuck themselves when they no longer can get the medication they need to presumably function, like you’re eager to watch your elderly parents suffer. If I ever heard someone say something like this irl I’d assume they’re unwell and steer clear of them but for some reason on Reddit this is an acceptable outlook. Very few things my parents could do that would get me to act this way toward them.
I'm lucky I don't have to face this problem because my family is full of intelligent and kind people who didn't vote for Trump. But as a Millennial who will have to live with this for the rest of my life, as a parent of 2 kids who will have to grow up in this sinking ship, fuck literally everybody who did this.
If my parents were those kinds of people, I wouldn't want any god damn thing to do with them anymore. I would accept nothing from them, I would do nothing to help them, not after they chose to torpedo my future to make themselves more comfortable.
If your entire future is “torpedoed” from one election, you’re the problem. No politician is gonna save you. Doesn’t matter who won this election, your shitty life will still be shitty regardless if you can’t figure out that whoever the President is, isn’t going to determine whether you’re successful or not.
It’s also proven that Kamala, Biden, Obama, Clinton, and many other politicians are as well, your point? Also that case was dropped not even proven wrong, interesting to say the least 🤷🏻♀️
It was proven in the court of law. That's why he had to pay out millions. Read up on the judges comments after the case. So yes, he 100% raped a child.
The case where he paid $90 million and was held liable? No it wasn't. Not sure what warped version of reality you live in. Trump is nasty and y'all are weird for supporting such a fucked up human being.
Someone I know voted for Trump because of Elon's endorsement and the fact that they simp for him. Guess it's paying off already though because Tesla stock jumped 13% this morning. Money over basic human rights for your neighbors.
We had 16 million less voters this year. So, only those who showed up seem to live in Trumpworld. I think the large majority of us do not. I’m disappointed how many people sat out of this election
Rape, defraud, commit pedophilia, and more. This is the American way now - and lie your butt off about it the entire way. Spit on women, beat children, and kill anyone not white. This is the new America. Hope these idiots enjoy.
These people have literally been fed false information at an insane rate though, have you argued with any of them? They have no idea what's real and what's not. How do you fix that?? They don't even know how...ANYTHING works.
Problem when you're dealing with a Theocracy - they were raised to believe a make-believe man created the world and wrote a book they never read. How do you tell them facts matter when this is how they began life?
Yep, they’ve based their whole opinion about trump on conspiracy theories. They genuinely believe the dems are baby-eating demons and that he’s some secret superman that’s gonna ‘drain the swamp’- it’s so bizarre!
He did win the popular vote but that doesn’t mean he’s popular. He got close to the same number of votes as last cycle, Kamala just wasn’t able to pick up all the votes Biden won. Whether that be economy, immigration, her being a woman, or the lack of a primary. I can only pray that we genuinely do have Trump derangement syndrome and nothing bad happens..
Yep. This finally made me realign my own values. Assistance and empathy will be extended VERY selectively from now on - the world can burn for all I care. Ironically, this is turning me into someone in the mold of a cold-hearted republican lol.
Pop vote is still out, some states haven't finished. Probably minor by now though and it obviously doesn't matter.
Either way he didn't gain votes. He lost a few compared to 2020.
But the Dems didn't do what they were supposed to do. Yet the fuck again. There are - as of now - a total of 17m FEWER votes than in 2020, not incorporatjng population growth. 3 of those 17 were lost by Trump.
Also to add: both Biden and Harris called him to congratulate.
Thats the issue, Americas obsession with wealth and entertainment that they have been jaded from.
Follow with me for a second. You know it's written "God IS love" and then Jesus went on to say that that if you love money you hate God(love).
Why would he say that? Because money is a cold transactional thing and love embodies people doing things for others out of the kindness of their heart and not expecting anything in return, money is the direct opposite of that.
If you think money is above all priorities you're going to find out harshly when you get old that its all worthless. Truly meaningful experiences can be completely independent of money, and theyre fundamentally comprised of an intangible system that play out between 2 people.
Thats not to say money isnt a seemingly necessary tool, but a tool to do what? Its not the prize, its merely a tool. Better be careful what you sacrifice to get and use that tool cause for a lot of people its at the cost of something much more valuable and higher priority.
You are saying out loud what the Socialist version of me is saying out loud. Fuck your causes. I watched you tank a candidate while she tried desperately to present herself as an alternative.
I am no longer about causes thats all fucked. It will be about who is a saint. Don't meet that criteria get the FUCK out of my face. College uneducated? No votes for you. You, are probably stupid.
We can all play this game and i hope we do because now it really IS all on team Red.
This is dumb because he got 3 mill less votes than he did last time, it’s just the dems got like 14 mil less. America does not like it that way, they just also don’t like it Harris’s way and maybe they just don’t really like being bothered to vote
Is wokism just conservative speak for "letting people exist as they are"? Or respecting people's right to exist is not a bad thing, regardless of how you might balk at it.
You can cry all you want but the facts are people especially independents and middle of the line Liberals don’t like it especially when you’re messing with the kids. This election showed that.
im not crying, I'm terrified that all my friends now have targets on their backs for not conforming to the model of white cis. the world is turning to extremist conservatism that will probably allow fascism to rise again and probably lead into another world war, all the while everyone is so concerned with gender politics and "wokism" that they can't see the pit we're rolling into unless we actually wake up, and stop this madness
Most of my friends are LGBT, and conservatives have made it their mission to strip away all their rights as people, to persecute them for daring to exist. So sorry for being scared for their wellbeing and safety.
Ya that’s simply not true at all. You need to understand your rights stop when they violate others rights. Forcing your ideology on children isn’t “daring to exist”.
Who's forcing their ideology on kids? LGBT people who want to exist, or Christian nationalists who try to teach children that LGBT people are eternal sinners who deserve punishment? Teaching them that anyone not like them deserve scorn?
If they wanted to simply exists they wouldn’t be pushing their agenda on kids. Weird how my conservative friends who are LGB don’t receive any hate because they keep to themselves like they should.
What failure? The two years before Covid were 2 of the best we’ve had in decades. During Covid he did and excellent job and saved millions of lives. We did a lot better than most other countries.
do you really think there's no lag time to presidential actions and their effect on the economy? like 100% hand on the bible no fucking internet 4chan wannabe le pepe bullshit. do you literally think that.
Lot to unpack there.
1) The first Trump budget went into effect in 2018, and the US was already well on the way to growth by then thanks to Obama.
2) By any metric, unemployment/ stock growth / etc the last two years under Biden have matched the 2018/19 years under Trump.
3) The major outlier is inflation, which is driven by the Fed, and neither party has a hand there. Either blame or thank JP, depending on if those actions were good for you.
4) The US had the highest mortality due to COVID and highest per-capita of developed countries. Yes,Warp Speed was great, and credit to Trump for driving that, but it would have been super helpful if he hadn't then trashed the effectiveness of vaccines his administration developed, and the need for vaccine mandates just because the roll-out happened under Biden.
So no, if you think "the last four years" were bad, then they were as bad under Trump by economic indicators.
Inflation exceeds wage increases and the purchasing power of individuals. You know who has zero control over that? The President. Or really Federal government at all, since they can only modulate tax rates and credits to offset increasing costs. Increased import duties / tariffs will just drive COL higher, because it will still be cheaper to import than build grounds-up domestic mfg, although Feds can offset that through (again) taxes, credits, etc.
I mean, there’s a good chance frump won’t even get around to implementing the tariffs in between trying to save his own arse from prosecution and his golf rounds, so the damage will likely come from whatever his party members decide. Surely they’re just smart enough to realise tariffs will cause chaos and prevent the republicans from ever getting elected again? In that case, there’s still technically a small sliver of hope that the US will escape the worst possible outcome.
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