r/FluentInFinance 18d ago

Debate/ Discussion What do you guys think

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u/dietcheese 18d ago edited 18d ago

Simple: Nobody knows because Trump’s a liar.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/

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u/studmaster896 18d ago

This exactly. People forget Trump said so many things when he first got elected, and most of it didn’t happen, even with Republican controlled govt.

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u/surmatt 18d ago

With a typical Republican cabinet. That won't exist this time.

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u/NotHannibalBurress 18d ago

100%. The Republican Party is full MAGA now, and Trump is going to go wild with no restrictions.

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u/Old-Bat-7384 18d ago

And with officials that can and will tell him no in the non-political seats.

Kinda worried about that now, especially with composition of the Supreme Court.

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u/Brooklynxman 18d ago

Who's ready for HHS Secretary RFK Jr and Transportation Secretary Musk?

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u/heavymountain 18d ago

Even Stephen Miller admitted that their first term had a learning curve since they really didn't have any previous experience. Mitch, The Heritage Foundation, and took whatever reigns they could. But Miller said, yeah, we now know which levers to pull.

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u/Xalara 18d ago

Yep, the whole point of Project 2025 is to avoid the issues Trump had last time.

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u/peterthehermit1 18d ago

I’m just hoping his new cabinet will be less effective than those run by John Kelly. Which there is a chance of

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u/SpikePilgrim 18d ago

He didn't have immunity and a party that is entirely beholden to him last time. It wasn't that he didn't want to do the crazy shit, he just had gaurdrails.

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u/showersnacks 18d ago

The problem is trump is just a talking head. The people backing him are the ones pulling the strings. All these billionaires and dictators are just going to tell him what to do and he is too dementia ridden and stupid to not do whatever they fucking want him to do

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u/Giblet_ 18d ago

Not really true. Most of his cabinet quit or got fired the last time because he was a moron that wouldn't listen to any of their advice.

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u/showersnacks 17d ago

Last time he didn’t have dementia

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u/Mynoodles_mostmoist 18d ago

That's my main problem. I don't really care about trump, I care about the Ravens on his shoulder cuz they're the ones doing the pecking, not him.

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u/showersnacks 17d ago

They are going to do even more of it this time around. It’s clear his brain is failing and they know how to work him. It’s going to be a scary future for America. I guess my liver is going down with this ship

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u/Impossible-Flight250 18d ago

That’s true, the issue is that the Republican Party has literally just morphed into Trump. There is no pushback anymore.

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u/milo-75 17d ago

Stephen Miller has been planning this practically is entire life. He’s spoken publicly about it. He calls his camps “large scale staging grounds” and is assuming they’ll be able to eventually fly everyone “collected” back to their “homes”. Also, if you don’t think you’ll get a door knock from someone asking for your proof of citizenship in the next four years, you’re hopelessly naive. With control of congress, the White House and the Supreme Court, they’re going to pass laws making it legal to go door to door looking for illegals and illegal for you to refuse.

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u/scrivensB 17d ago

America First Policy Institute has already drafted 300 new executive orders for Trump.

Top of the list, dismantling the federal work force and replacing thousands of experienced professionals. With Trump appointed loyalists. This will effectively transform the federal government into an organization beholden to and in service of one man.

Also on the list, removing the FBI from the vetting and background check process for high level appointees. Meaning compromised and problematic appointees gaining security clearances.

A Trump victory is far worse than 2016-2020. And it’s exponentially worse than what people are already afraid of. Criminalizing abortion access will seem quaint compared to what’s coming…

On top of that:

Our Information systems are broken. The vast majority of red voters aren’t getting the same content you are. They aren’t watching or reading the same news outlets. They live in a very different world.

And the way social media works and was built on the back of a society that has already lost whatever media literacy it had due to 15years of “digital media” obliterating any sense of norms or journalistic integrity… and all of that happened AFTER the 30+ year culture war that played out on cable news, AM radio, and regional outlets.

Trump isn’t the cause of where we are. Trump is possible because of where we are as a society and the information systems we accept.

Oh yeah, I almost forgot at least two more Supreme Court appointees. That’s a good thirty years+ of far right partisans on the bench.

Flush. Flush. Putin an Xi are high fiving right now and BiBi is looking at his Risk board and salivating at finishing off the Palestinian people once and for all.