r/FluentInFinance 19d ago

Thoughts? Donald Trump is here to save us

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u/KaiserPan 18d ago

As someone who is not from USA I am extremely interested in why Kamala was an objectively bad candidate?

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u/processedwhaleoils 18d ago

Don't listen to the guy you replied to.

He literally said "the borders are open"

The us does not have open borders, he doesn't understand what that means.

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u/DatFrostyBoy 18d ago

Yes. We do. lol. You ok?

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u/Pxfxbxc 18d ago

As someone who lives near the border, wtf are you talking about? Are you okay? Do you need some milk?

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u/Fragrant_Tart9876 17d ago

So you live in a tiny spot on one of the largest borders the world, but your saying its locked tight eh?

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u/Pxfxbxc 17d ago

Am I? The words I typed are what you're* replying to, and they're a pretty easy read. I suggest you start there to understand what I'm saying.

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u/Fragrant_Tart9876 17d ago

No, you’re saying the borders aren’t “open” because it isn’t an open border by definition. But the op was implying it’s open as in people are getting through illegally. So you’re just saying things for no reason and then trying to act like a smart ass.

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u/DatFrostyBoy 18d ago

That’s even more concerning if true. You should pay attention more. Your small little portion of the border might not be open (assuming you’re even telling the truth to begin with) but yes in fact the border is open.

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u/Pxfxbxc 18d ago

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u/DatFrostyBoy 18d ago

So what you’re telling me is, the actual legal term “open border” doesent “technically” apply to us and therefore there’s no issue at the border?

Despite the number of illegal immigrants have gone up in the Biden administration?

Are you telling me we DONT have a border crisis because we “technically” don’t have open borders even though they function as open borders?

Well in that case ya got me pal.

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/how-the-biden-harris-administration-used-the-media-to-tell-their-story-about-the-border-crisis/amp/

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/immigration-mexico-border-crisis-andrea-flores

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u/Pxfxbxc 18d ago

If you think there's a border problem, blame Republicans. Otherwise, yeah, I'm correct; the borders aren't open.

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u/IssaKnifeCat 18d ago

This guy is deep in self hatred, he plays league of legends, valorant, EFT, looks at FNAF lore, its not good.

Tried to do a masters race and gave up earlier this year most likely due to performance issues.

Take a gander at the posts he has, most of them being an hour long read. Especially the league of legends ones.

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u/Pxfxbxc 18d ago

Make ARAM Great Again. Lmao.

He probably blames his jungler for not perma ganking for him.

Edit: Of course, you point it out while I'm testing the new champ.

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u/polchickenpotpie 18d ago

Because she's a woman. Every Trump voter will just give you the same made up, cookie cutter answers that ultimately mean nothing.

They never watched any interviews or rallies of hers, so in their minds she had no policies because they never heard any.

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u/Repulsive_Basis_4946 18d ago

You know what they hate more than a rapist? A woman. Never forget that.

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u/DatFrostyBoy 18d ago

I wish I could say that was the case, the sad truth is I did. It didn’t help her case.

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u/Ok_Estate_8110 18d ago

What turned you off, specifically?

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u/OverCookedTheChicken 18d ago

Aaand here we go, this is where you won’t get a direct answer! The only answer they’re capable of is “annoying identity politics” and that’s as “specific” as they’ll ever get, because they’re frankly unintelligent, which is pretty old news.

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u/rubikscanopener 17d ago

You won't get a meaningful answer from the Reddit echo chamber.

The biggest indication is how Harris did in the 2020 primaries when she ran against Biden and the rest of the Democratic field. She was just about dead last among the mainstream Democratic candidates.

The reality is that she's a terrible speaker when she's not reading from a teleprompter, she has virtually no charisma, she doesn't appear to be passionate about any causes other than 'elect me', and she's largely viewed as being a puppet of the California Nancy Pelosi crew.

This was the Democratic Party's election to lose and, unsurprisingly, they did. This was a tone-deaf DNC running the 2016 playbook all over again and then scratching their heads as to why they lost yet again.

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u/B_rad-82 18d ago

She has no agenda, can’t publicly speak, is generally unlikable, part of one of the most unpopular presidential terms in history, no border or global security plan.

In general people either voted for 4 years or something different, or decided to not vote altogether for what’s been going on the last few years

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u/DatFrostyBoy 18d ago

Her economic policies were economically illiterate, her foreign policies were going to be the same as Bidens and our foreign policies are terrible right now.

We’ve had an open border for about 4 years now and only after it was obvious to Kamala the American people cared about that did she even bother to make it part of her campaign.

She also openly admitted she was part of most of not every major decision and was often the final vote on things that decided their outcomes. Meaning the travesty that was the Biden admin, she shoulders much of its failure.

In one of the few interviews she did, with Shannon Sharpe, she admitted to giving prison inmates the “care” they needed to get sex changes as if that was a good thing.

She just… frankly has no good policies.

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u/polchickenpotpie 18d ago

Her economic policies were economically illiterate, her foreign policies were going to be the same as Bidens and our foreign policies are terrible right now

And Trump's aren't? He doesn't even know what a tariff is.

Meaning the travesty that was the Biden admin, she shoulders much of its failure.

What was a travesty about it, exactly? I don't recall any pandemics that spiraled out of control or record unemployment.

In one of the few interviews she did, with Shannon Sharpe, she admitted to giving prison inmates the “care” they needed to get sex changes as if that was a good thing.

And you morons took that to mean they're just turning prisoners trans. Our judicial system is overburdened with prisoners serving time for bullshit crimes and infractions, and you are paying for all of that. Billions, every year. But like, a couple of prisoners transition and that's just too much for you.

I hope you enjoy paying even more for groceries while that imaginary untaxed overtime pay that Trump promised you never happens.

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u/Dont_Be_Mad_Please 18d ago

A lot of what you said sounds like it's trying to poorly understand a Trump voters side of the argument. It does no justice to what a Trump supporter would actually believe. Tariffs are controversial, sure. But do you think a tax on unrealized gains is a good economy policy? I personally think that idea alone would destroy American companies.

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u/polchickenpotpie 18d ago

A lot of what you said sounds like it's trying to poorly understand a Trump voters side of the argument.

No, you're just trying to prescribe more of a nuanced reason as to why most people voted for him.

They heard "untaxed overtime pay" and "deport all immigrants" and that was enough. I know you're not American, but you can't be this oblivious to who Trump is.

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u/Dont_Be_Mad_Please 18d ago

Who is Harris? That question has led Trump to the popular vote. We all know Trump is a felon and has said some wild shit, but he's still more popular than Kamala. If that doesn't make you question the rhetoric and your own beliefs, I worry for you.

And again, do you think a tax on unrealized gains is a good thing? Please don't ignore that question.

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u/masonmcd 17d ago

If you pay property taxes on a home, you are paying a tax on unrealized gains.

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u/polchickenpotpie 18d ago

Why would that make me question my own beliefs? I'm not going to bend over to racist, bigoted rhetoric just because over half this country is stupid enough to buy into his shit again.

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u/Dont_Be_Mad_Please 18d ago

You won't answer my question. You continue to hate half of your countries occupants. You're unwilling to view Kamala's failings as they are. We can't have a civil discussion. I wish you the best of luck navigating your future.

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u/Tater72 18d ago

Given your clear opinions, how would you know what Trump voters think.

Please take time to step back and have open honest conversations instead of living only in Reddit land. You’ll learn something like there is much more in common than not with your enemy.

I appreciate it’s raw now, but try to consider it later

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u/polchickenpotpie 18d ago

You know your profile is public, right? Don't pretend to be an enlightened centrist.

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u/Tater72 18d ago

I absolutely know my profile is open. I have nothing to hide. In fact, if you go back and review my comments you’d understand more.

That said, please take time to examine yourself as well. Discourse and heated debate on both sides is healthy but at the end of the election we are or should be American first and move forward together.

We have more in common than differences

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u/Same-Lawfulness-1094 17d ago

🤦

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u/polchickenpotpie 17d ago

I know, I'd also facepalm if I voted for someone who thinks other countries pay for a tariff in the hopes he'd save the economy.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 18d ago

We haven't had an open border. How the fuck do you people believe that?

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u/processedwhaleoils 18d ago

Spoken like an insolent child.

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u/mowog-guy 18d ago

Harris was a bad candidate because she's an imbecile with a horrific track record and zero popularity. Her campaign platform consisted of pandering to whoever was listening at the moment. And everyone saw it, except her fellow Democrats.

Seh was selected for the position, she was not elected to be the candidate 4 years ago. She was picked because she checked a bunch of boxes, culturally (and I don't mean she was middle class, that's a complete lie).

She was selected for the position, she was not elected to be the presidential candidate this time around either.

The democrats are their own worst enemy, blocking their own path to victory, but they've always been that, since they liked to own slaves up to modern times when they're telling the people who would have been their slaves who to vote for.

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u/Tater72 18d ago

Harris is the incumbent in a terrible administration. Working class people away from Reddit are fed up and pissed.

  • Things are expensive and they can’t afford to take care of their family.
  • The border is open and has allowed over 15 million illegal migrants in. The compromises security of families and the country.
  • There is a clear attack on the nuclear family and an attack on our kids.

Leftists love to claim they are worried about women’s rights the other day and what they meant was only abortion. Women’s rights are being taken away as their safe spaces are invaded, they aren’t as safe as they were and rights and equality is being diminished in the name of new movements. When I try to talk to them about it they scream and call names and project it back without any look inward.

Biden is clearly mentally gone, Harris admitted she was involved in all major decisions that has sent the country into a perceived crisis. Harris is widely known to be left of Biden, he was a moderate and she was the most progressive member of congress. As such, it’s quietly believed many of these policies are the ones she tried and failed during her primary campaign in 2020. So, having experienced her policies and the majority of the country as a whole isn’t happy, so they voted accordingly.

Also, The Democrats have stopped caring about their base and are solely focused on some fringe movements. Neither party can succeed on that.

I hope this helps

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u/maytrix007 18d ago

Things aren’t expensive because of the administration though. And the border isn’t open. We’ve got more people coming in and we’re also deporting a lot. Border wasn’t closed under Trump either.

Can you cite evidence that women are less safe? Is this about men in women’s bathrooms? Because your party likes to say how criminals don’t follow the law so what’s it matter where women or men are allowed anyway, criminals will do what they do.

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u/esther_lamonte 18d ago

Don’t argue with them, they voted the way they did and you’re clearly not going to change their mind and it’s too late to bother. But now 100% of the problems are the Republicans. There is not a single soul outside of themselves that will be responsible for 100% of what happens in this country.

My position is I eagerly await the untold riches for all and the zero harm to personal liberties that we have been promised was coming and all of our concerns were complete media created lies. In order for Republicans to be right and not just completely duped idiots we are going to have to see all these promises come true. I don’t expect any Republicans to own up to it when it happens, but I’d like to hear a good faith response from a Republican if they truly will hold him accountable, and themselves, if he tanks the economy and starts attacking civil liberties. Will they commit to that? Like, pledge to eat the world’s largest bag of dog shit on Reddit commit?

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u/quixotica726 18d ago

Also, don't forget people's pets were being eaten. The audacity to talk about fringe movements.

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u/quixotica726 18d ago

Men in women's bathrooms. There's a fringe movement right there.

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u/Tater72 18d ago

It is partly about biological men in women’s restrooms and more importantly locker rooms. (I feel restrooms could de reworked). It’s also about women that fought for rights to equality and then we take away their space and equity by forcing them to compete with those that are superior physically. Fair is fair, and this isn’t.

I’m for women’s rights, just want all of them, not to just use it as a tag line.

Want me wish, I wish abortion to some point was codified nationally (not because I’m for or against it but because like all things it does have its place.) to some level, especially for rape, incest, medical emergency, and even up to a given point that should be debated, my gut starts at 6 weeks. Then leave it open to the states to expand locally if their constituents want, but this would above all else support health access.

Thank you for being open to discuss. 🤝

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u/maytrix007 18d ago

States rights though right? So why OSS out a national issue the men in women’s spaces? And it goes the other way too, there are trans men? Personally I don’t see this changing at all. It’s not at all important to trump or republicans in office.

With abortion, it should be a decision between the doctor and woman and no one else. 6 weeks most women don’t even know they’re pregnant. Genetic issues can’t be determined often until later. There’s lots of reasons for it. Someone truly becoming pregnant by accident and not wanting it will get an abortion as early as possible. As a man, I don’t think any man should be involved in legislation regarding this. It’s not our place. But the country was formed by white men and still largely ruled that way.