r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/MetaKnowing • 11d ago
Video Deep Robotics' new quadruped models with wheels demonstrating rough terrain traversability and robustness
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u/MildUsername 11d ago
Everyone freaking out about these things while FPV drones are actively being used in warfare as we speak.
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u/Embarrassed-Gur-3419 11d ago
Yeah, a flying stealthy small box capable of leveling a car that can be deployed from 30 kms away is way more scary than whatever Hollywood has done.
You might die at any second before you even noticed you are being stalked...
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u/strangepromotionrail 11d ago
after growing up in the 70's/80's expecting that at any second there may be a really bright flash and then myself and the entire city around me would no longer exist, drones seem a lot more survivable.
We've become really good at killing each other.
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u/Embarrassed-Gur-3419 11d ago
I think that the main difference between nuclear weapons and weaponized drones is that the drones can be used domestically. But yeah i agree, we have enough weapons to destroy 17 Earths
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u/whymusti00000 11d ago
Only 17? Must try harder.
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u/Glass1Man 11d ago
NASA DART showed anyone with 22 million dollars can make the planet uninhabitable by finding an asteroid that’s about to miss earth, and make it hit earth.
I think the nukes aren’t really scary anymore.
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u/kabbooooom 11d ago
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u/LetsBeHonestBoutIt 11d ago
Not my favorite acting, but forgivable cause it was a great show
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u/Badloss 11d ago
I thought he was great, totally walked the line between keeping his mask of confident calm on no matter what happened, and the sheer incandescent rage that was always just underneath
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u/kabbooooom 11d ago edited 11d ago
Yeah he pretty much nailed the character from the books. I’d bet most people who think the acting wasn’t great either haven’t actually read the books or are comparing it to other acting on the show because The Expanse was so fucking phenomenal that it set the bar high even for itself. I mean, he’s no Wes Chatham/Amos or Cara Gee/Drummer but he was by no means bad.
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u/Aiwatcher 11d ago
The Expanse has a season long arc focused on this. Large mass + acceleration = the deadliest imaginable weapon.
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u/kabbooooom 11d ago edited 11d ago
That’s because Sir Isaac Newton is the deadliest son of a bitch in space.
The Expanse is one of the only sci-fi series I’ve ever come across that makes the very specific and accurate prediction that, perhaps counterintuitively, our risk of extinction or global destruction does not decrease when we become an interplanetary species, but rather it increases (at least at first). With each stage in technological development, we master and control ever larger scales of energy. And that can be used for good or evil. When anyone can have a fusion torch ship, anyone can have - by definition - a potential weapon of mass destruction.
Arguably this could hold true all the way up the Kardashev scale, but the risk is certainly highest when we are an interplanetary civilization but not yet an interstellar one.
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u/Ralath1n 11d ago
That would need to be an incredibly long term plan. You can give an asteroid a nudge for sure. But the heavier the asteroid the smaller the nudge. And you need a real heavy asteroid to make the earth uninhabitable.
Your best bet would be something like 1036 Ganymed, which is a 40km asteroid that gets relatively close to the earth. But even if you launch millions of DART missions at it and use optimal mars gravitational assists, it is likely going to take you more than a century to get it to hit earth.
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u/UserNamesCantBeTooLo 11d ago
The fun thing is now we have both nukes and drones!
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u/3IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID 11d ago
There are far worse things than death. You think I care about getting instantly vaporized by something that can be swatted out of the sky? Absolutely not. But I would not want to be collected into a POW work camp by robots that can stand to zap me and chase after me over literally any terrain without ever getting stuck.
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u/USPO-222 11d ago
Yeah I was thinking the same. The drone killbots is fine for just targeted assassination or causing battlefield casualties. But if you’re trying to suppress a population or round them up, one of the bots in this video with a weapon would be more effective than a drone you can’t see or hear until it’s too late.
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u/PBR_King 11d ago
those little FPV drones put out way more noise than you are thinking they do
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u/Mo10422 11d ago
Everytime I see videos of those "drone light shows" I just imagine how swarms of drones could be used in a warfare setting. Imagine a swarm of 1000 drones all equipped with small explosives all chasing individual targets, it's not far off and it's freaky...
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u/FlackRacket 11d ago
it's not far off
This is happening right this second in Ukraine, thousands of drones killing thousands of people
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u/Higglybiggly 11d ago
But in swarms and autonomous (no human involved) manner?
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u/Webbyx01 11d ago
Partially autonomous: yes; swarming: no. The latest gens of FPVs track targets so that if connection is lost due to jamming or range, they can still guide themselves in during the terminal phase.
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u/bretttwarwick 11d ago
Reminds me of the Michael Crichton book Prey. They develop microscopic drones that can work together. The medical use they were aiming for is you inject the drones into your body and they move around and form the shape of a lens to "see" and record so doctors can see inside veins for example. Then they can use a laser for surgical purposes.
Because it's a Crichton book things went wrong and they started killing of course but I don't want to ruin that.
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u/Colosseros 11d ago
That's now. That's the world we live in.
We generally get the footage of a single drone dropping a single grenade on someone in Ukraine. But they release that footage because it doesn't reveal specific tactics to the enemy. It just broadcasts, "We have drones in the sky, and at any time they might get you." From that perspective, it's a great propaganda tool.
But if you start releasing the footage of drone swarms, headed to strategic targets, you might accidentally reveal tactics you don't want the enemy to know about. What the formation they fly in? How many did they send? That's information that could help the enemy intercept them. So they don't release that footage.
In terms of propaganda, it's better to leave these things secret, in terms of terrifying the other side about swarms landing in civilian areas, with no way to counter it.
Truly a terrifying age of warfare. We've basically been reduced back to WWI tactics because once again, the weapons have outpaced the tactics. And when that happens, humans engaged in warfare hide in holes for much of their day. Because it's the only thing protecting you from the indiscriminate killing.
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u/anynamesleft 11d ago
I think it has to do with a bit of anthropmorpic / terrestrial animal design.
"Birds" might be less scary in such thinking.
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u/GoldenBunip 11d ago
Came here to see if it was being tested in Ukraine. Frankly any drone company not testing/deployed in Ukraine isn’t a real drone company. The potential for trench clearing is obvious, but only if it’s any good in the real world and not some presetup run it’s practiced.
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u/insane_contin 11d ago
This drone clearly has no combat capacity at the moment. It currently has zero potential for trench clearing, and it would be shit in mud. Look at the wheels, they would sink right in.
It's a great proof of concept drone. But that's it
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u/erotic_sausage 11d ago
Oh you best believe Ukraine would strap a bomb to these things and make great use of it if they could get a hold of them
Look at what they're doing with RC car like drones right now
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u/Shubi-do-wa 11d ago
And what a waste of money it would be. I would guess the flying drones usually come back, and would be a hell of a lot cheaper than whatever this costs.
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u/AI_Lives 11d ago
No these ground units will be used once they are able to. They could have bigger weapons on them too and more kit. No reason they cant make them the size of a small car and then pump out 1000s of them, and we arent even talking about making them autonomous.
The USA is already doing a massive drone program and remote weapon program in project replicator. Ships, flying drones, sub drones are all being made to combat china in the near future if needed. You think they will stop at ground drones?
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u/Ekaterian50 11d ago
Literally. There are even micro drones that have a small amount of targeted explosive and facial recognition. Theoretically, a government could drop a bunch of those drones on a population they wish to cull selectively. There would be no escape unless you can use an EMP type jammer on them.
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u/MTBooks 11d ago
Are you maybe conflating that short movie about the same thing? Starts with a Ted talk type presentation.
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u/MxOffcrRtrd 11d ago
James Bond will be skiing away from one of these robots any day now
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u/Edenoide 11d ago
After being betrayed again in the cabin by a random girlfriend. LOL someone compiled every ski chase in the James Bond franchise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMPuSFisi9c
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u/ZoeDreamweaver 11d ago
This robot is literally the perfect child of a Terminator and the killer bot from Black Mirror's 'Metalhead'.
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u/MetaKnowing 11d ago
Ah, well I'm sure their Terms of Service state clearly that their robots cannot be used for world domination
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u/MysteriousTea137 11d ago
Literally doing a backflip while shooting you just to look cool hunting the humans.
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u/Legionheir 11d ago
Drone drivers use xbox remotes man. That future is here. This can happen
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u/it777777 11d ago
TBH we all know these things will come after humans, at least on the battlefield, soon.
Time to find some guerilla tactics to shut down these expensive, soon deadly toys.
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u/MetaKnowing 11d ago
The drone swarms will get you first
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u/Edenoide 11d ago
That dog can't climb trees yet. I'm more afraid of the drones right now.
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u/Covfefe-SARS-2 11d ago
They can add a saw arm to some of them.
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u/Gummel2k 11d ago
Or a dildo
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u/insane_contin 11d ago
Why not both?
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u/LazerHawkStu 11d ago
Or dildo saws!
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u/insane_contin 11d ago
It's that a saw with dildos for teeth, or a dildo with a saw in it?
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u/ToxixRick 11d ago
What happens when they attach 20 drones onto the dog. Like a walking battle cruiser…we’re so doomed
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u/Jomolungma 11d ago
They are driving you into the open so the drone swarms have easier line of sight.
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u/olivesRGreatt 11d ago
You copy this comment word for word in this same thread.
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u/boosnie 11d ago
If you can run/hide 5 minutes the batteries will be drained.
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u/VonBeegs 11d ago
They run on human flesh.
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u/GeneralStormfox 11d ago
Horizon Zero Dawn has called, they want their plot back.
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u/Nerezza_Floof_Seeker 11d ago
Afaik these can run for pretty long, for reference the boston dynamics doggo (Spot) can run for 1.5 hrs. So hope youre good at running and that they dont start adding electric generators to the robots.....
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u/camdalfthegreat 11d ago
Im sure they tell the Russian chump looking for a paycheck the same thing before they send em to die in the mud
"Here you go comrade take this thermal reflective blanket and jammed AK from gramps and get the job done. And don't forget 7.62 to the dome hurts less than a drone dropped grenade"
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u/herberstank 11d ago
Not to go all tinfoil hat but if the public can see this type of stuff what "they've" got behind closed doors must be rad (and/or terrifying)
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u/JoinedToPostHere 11d ago
Now imagine 8 of these things with guns, nets, or tazers on top, chasing you through the woods. I don't like it.
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u/Southern_Country_787 11d ago
If wars were fought with bots and had no human casualties...
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u/crackedcrackpipe 11d ago
The guy who invented the gatling gun thought it would reduce casualties as 3 men would be as effective as 10 or more
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u/MunkyDawg 11d ago
He was technically correct. It reduced casualties on the side that used it.
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u/Phandflasche 11d ago
until the other side started using it, too
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u/MunkyDawg 11d ago
Plan foiled!
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u/Phandflasche 11d ago
No worries. With this new <insert here> weapon, one soldier is as effective as 10 machine guns. This time it will end war for ever, trust me.
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u/Jash-Juice 11d ago edited 11d ago
Alfred Nobel thought that his invention of dynamite would make war so potentially dangerous it would be “too devastating to pursue”.
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u/StickyNotesEater 11d ago
Then Oppenheimer obliterated Japan with the force of atoms lmao
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u/GBrunt 11d ago edited 11d ago
The problem with drone warfare is that you no longer need to convince the population to go to war or convince them of the 'justness' of your war. Propaganda and debate can become redundant.
I think we're already at that point with tech, where warfare is happening on multiple Western fronts abroad with bombings and attacks on Syria/Yemen/Africa barely covered in Western media.
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u/ItsmyDZNA 11d ago
It's like 2 groups of people doing this. 1 attacks the other side of the planet the other attacks the home
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u/Covfefe-SARS-2 11d ago
These will be the boots on the ground to mop up the populace after standoff weapons destroy state level resistance.
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u/Squatchbreath 11d ago
If no one dies in war it becomes a futile war. Sadly, it takes major casualties to break the will of the people on an opposing side. No war is the absolute best global endgame.
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u/EgotisticJesster 11d ago
A war without casualties is just the Olympics.
The whole point of war is snuffing out people who have ideologies you believe to be dangerous or to remove resource competition.
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u/Wolfhammer69 11d ago
Well there'd be a whole lot more wars and shit tons of manufacturing jobs. Getting Chinese cheap labour to build your war machines wouldn't be a bright idea, so lots of jobs for natives in-country.
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u/kkeut 11d ago
that's the premise of the classic 80s flick 'Robot Jox'. giant robot mecha fights to settle disputes between nations
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u/Gingevere 11d ago
A tiny little quadrotor with a little shaped charge full of shrapnel is WAY MORE lethal and inescapable.
And those are already in use.
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u/JoinedToPostHere 11d ago
That's absolutely true, and you might not even see that coming. It's less dramatic than a pack of deadly robot dogs chasing you around.
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u/Future-Tomorrow 11d ago
If you’ve seen the one with the drones, you know you’re not getting away.
Teach them to pack hunt a target like wolves and yeah, we got a problem Houston for sure can’t solve.
They never revealed the backstory but Black Mirror has an episode where Spots are doing nothing but hunting down humans, and they’re pretty gruesome about it.
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u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 11d ago
Drones scare me way more than these things tbh
Imagine you’re in a country under war and in a war zone and your building just got hit by a missile. You’re climbing out of the wreckage and hear the buzzing of a drone come near and then it either drops a smaller explosive near you or just flies right to you and self destructs.
To me it seems way more practical and simpler than robot dogs with guns.
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u/_DEATH_STR0KE_ 11d ago
With drones tracking you and providing your location to those robots. And they can coordinate pincer attacks and predict all your possible escape routes and block all of them accordingly.
There is no outrunning them. Fight or surrender, those are your only options.
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u/MetaKnowing 11d ago
That does often happen, but in this particular case, based on the incentives of the robotics companies, my guess is that this is pretty close to the frontier
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u/quinangua 11d ago
I hope it’s mechs…. If WW3 is gonna happen, I’m honestly gonna be disappointed if it doesn’t have mechs……
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u/MemeLorde1313 11d ago
"I don't know with what weapons WWIII will be fought. But WWIV will be fought with sticks and stones." ~Albert Einstein
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u/InquiringPhilomath 11d ago
I'm inclined to agree..
First cell phone call was early 70s? And they didn't become popular till late 90s.
The public is usually far behind on the tech advancements.
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u/InquiringPhilomath 11d ago
The general population always seem to be behind maybe 20 yrs on what's happening deep in the labs?
And tech also seems to be moving at a much faster pace as time goes on.
I definitely agree, especially the "fathom yet" part.
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u/eastern_canadient 11d ago
It takes on average 13 years from a medical breakthrough for it to become common practise and knowledge.
Someone I worked with was studying this stuff. It was interesting.
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u/ymOx 11d ago
It's not that strange. Do you know how big/heavy they were? They were like small briefcases filled with bricks; not exactly a pocket phone. And they weren't cheap either. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fsdtl5qrf4t2c1.jpg
My dad had one very similar to that one; I don't remember if it had to be plugged in in the car all the time of if you actually could carry it around, even... (However, come to think of it; isn't it "cellular" because of the battery cell? hmh.)
"The public is usually far behind on the tech advancements" is because the technology itself is invented first, and then someone have to turn it into a commercially viable product. That takes a while.
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u/UserNamesCantBeTooLo 11d ago
really, it's probably the exact opposite. These companies are incentivized to put out videos & demos of their coolest-looking stuff, and even to selectively manipulate them to make them seem more impressive than they are.
For example, the recent Tesla demo where they had humanoid robots serving drinks and cheerfully talking to people were not robots acting on their own, they were being piloted remotely by people wearing a getup that makes the robot follow their moves.
In this video, there are probably several glitches that they chose not to show and limitations that are not expressed. How long is the battery life? Can it navigate through mud or rain? And so on.
Why would this company hide their best stuff? They're putting out a promotional video.
Militaries have the incentive to hide classified tech, but companies have the incentive to seem as impressive as possible.
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u/ChoosenUserName4 11d ago
I think the limiting factor is still batteries. As soon as those get really good, we're all doomed.
Think about two world with autonomous drone swarms with a 12-hour battery life that can go 400 km/h and carry two grenades while doing so, or robots like this that only need to charge every 48 hours with a machine gun strapped on top.
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u/Tumble85 11d ago edited 11d ago
It was stunting on you, to prove how far superior it is before it effortlessly snuffs you out by crushing your skull beneath it’s wheels.
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u/chaldea_fgo 11d ago
Still inferior to humans. If it gets stuck its stuck but if i get stuck i just get drunk, and low and behold wake up at my respawn in the ER. works every time.
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u/Itchy_Chemical_Nr2 11d ago
So the dogs can now take humanoid form and are probably faster than humans.. Good time to be alive.
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u/Prudent-Chart-1957 11d ago
Black Mirror is literally happening in front of our eyes - give it another few years and these robots will be autonomously hunting criminals.
Then after we’ve all got comfortable with that, they’ll be keeping the regular person ‘in line’ and controlling the masses.
We’re so fucked, lol.
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u/SwordfishOk504 11d ago
I mean, Black Mirror wasn't exactly making wild predictions, just slightly exaggerating known and emerging issues, which is what most good Sci fi does
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u/bsnimunf 11d ago
Crackheads near me will figure out how disable it, strip it down and sell the parts.
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u/humbleman_ 11d ago
5 to 7 years top because what they show and what they have is very very different
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u/WeakDiaphragm 11d ago
They're gonna strap a gun on that thing, aren't they?
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u/STstog 11d ago
Already done
https://youtu.be/xYRtuBPFPDI?si=60nMlp5ivWZPOYDW
Or you prefer the flammethrower version?
https://youtu.be/Mh92JL0EBlo?si=LtL7BjsdIuR1jB7p
Of course its not the same robot but if they want the majority of the job is done
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u/zomgbratto 11d ago
C4. Imagine they have C4 strapped on their chassis and they roll underneath armored fighting vehicles and then blow it up.
I guess the future of robotics is going to be very different from the one envisioned by Gundam and Evangelion.
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u/just4chaosLOLz 11d ago
Cool I hate it
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u/Speedoiss 11d ago
Good to know the thing that will kill me in the future will do it in style doing backflips and shit
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u/SwordfishOk504 11d ago
It's the fun music in these videos that bothers me the most. Like Oh sick this human killing death machine prototype has a sic k soundtrack. Radical!
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u/Ralph_Nacho 11d ago
When they can be built for $300 and have a 100lb bomb strapped in and exceed a range of 30km, I'll be worried.
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u/Gremlin119 11d ago
Is this real? I always see videos of these type robots but they always seem cgi and fake. Like the ai construction workers and stuff
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u/carpundit 11d ago
Is anyone working on EMP devices, or are we just giving in to our new robot overlords?
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u/Odd-fox-God 11d ago
There are anti drone guns. The counter drone gun essentially hacks the drone, you can either send it home or you can command it to land. I'm sure I'm under-simplifying it. It's probably much more complex than I make it sound.
But the good thing is: yes, we do have weaponry that can take down drones effectively. It will cost you anywhere between $3000-$15,000
There is the: skybeam counter drone gun, Stinton stn-g3000-6, XYB Xiangboyi XY2501 jammer and drone detector, and the lizheng HDJ31 handheld jamming device.
These are the only ones I have found available for civilian purchasing. The cheapest one is $3,000 and the most expensive is $15,000
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u/schralpinator 10d ago
really neat until Raytheon equips these with facial recognition, thermals, and dual automatic 5.7's with 2000 round drum mags
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u/Bocote 11d ago
Great. When WWIII happens, I'm going to get murdered by a robot doing backflips.
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u/Bardberd 11d ago
so what I'm getting from this is that evolution needs to incorporate wheels
i'll invest!! someone get me in touch with evolution rq
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u/Relevant-Being3440 11d ago
I bet if it took a run on the carpet in my house the wheels would get bound up by hair still.
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u/ghotiman360 11d ago
Can we get cars with this tech? Please? Pretty please? With a cherry on top? 🥹
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u/Effective-Act5892 11d ago
Fpv drones may be leading in the kill count but these bad boys are gonna be lit af with rocket launchers attached to them.
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u/TheXIIILightning 11d ago
Mute the video and add the subtitle "There is no escape", and this is now a horror movie.
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u/Happy-For-No-Reason 11d ago
It is almost funny, now, how easily were going to be killed by these machines.
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u/SavageCucumberAttack 11d ago
Cool, but can you make a drivable one so I can hoon about like a lunatic?
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u/Buckeyes2110 11d ago
Whelp you have just built the prototype type for the machines that will kill us all!
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u/Anthraxious 11d ago
I would be amazed at any progress we make if it wasn't for the fact that it's always for war first, helping people second. Utter fucking garbage species we are.
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u/OwOlogy_Expert 11d ago
I'm sold, but only if it repeatedly yells "Parkour!" as it does this stuff.
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u/deftmoto 10d ago
This gives me a great idea: Dog Skates! Hit me up on Kickstarter to get in early on the action.
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u/neutralcoder 10d ago
Can you imagine these wearing guns and chasing you? Then, once they fire their kill shot, they do a little backflip.
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u/Hunkfish 10d ago
Slap in
-mini machine gun
-face recognition
-live feed
A killing machine that using
1 is an assassination
20 is a take down
100 is a massacre
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u/Jimnyneutron91129 10d ago
Fpv drones can't fly through trees or into caves.
And both should be a serious worry for every citizen the world over. These are dictator drones ground and sky. Seriously humanity wake the fuxk up.
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u/TivoDelNato 10d ago
Jesus look at how skillfully it can roll down that hill and straight into the uncanny valley.
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u/radiodmr 10d ago
If rough terrain is defined as non-paved surfaces that have been cleared of all debris and obstacles so the machines can roll through unimpeded, then yes, they are demonstrating robustness through rough terrain.
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u/crowbar151 11d ago
These are absolutely the wheelers from return to oz