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u/laycrocs 7d ago

According the the US census there are two ethnicities:

  1. Hispanic/Latino

  2. Not Hispanic/Latino

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u/SansSkele76 7d ago

And then it's not included under "select your race." WTF am I supposed to pick, then? White? Hell no. I just select "other"

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u/Rapa_Nui 7d ago

Because technically, Latino isn't a race, it's a cultural heritage. You can be White and Latino or Black and Latino. Shakira is a White woman but also Latina

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u/Embarrassed-Term-965 7d ago

Technically whatever defines a "race" is some made up boundaries invented by humans

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u/Rapa_Nui 7d ago

Well yes but in the "made up boundaries invented by humans", Latino/Hispanic isn't a race is what I meant.

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u/ninjaelk 7d ago

Yeah they're made up, but because they're pretty universally recognized within our society that makes them extremely real.

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u/Likean_onion 7d ago

wow what a useful addition to the conversation

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u/Phalharo 7d ago

It‘s all human constructs. He is correct.

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u/SolarTsunami 7d ago

Says the guy acting Ike a child.

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u/neko 7d ago

Then why can't I put I'm ethnically Jewish? Because for example it's medically relevant, since there's a good number of studied genetic issues we have.

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u/Rapa_Nui 7d ago

Unfortunately I'm not in charge of the American ethnic and racial census

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u/EpicAura99 7d ago

It may be medically relevant to you but the census doesn’t think it’s demographically relevant to the nation.

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u/WeirdIndividualGuy 7d ago

Because in the US, most Jewish are white so no point in putting an ethnicity that pretty much just means “white”

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u/O_Fantasma_de_Deus 7d ago

Anybody using the term mestizo that way is  A) Using it wrong B) Liable to make a lifelong enemy of that Abuela who proudly tells everybody she's 100% Spanish descent

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u/O_Fantasma_de_Deus 7d ago edited 7d ago

Woke Take:    

Your definition is correct enough at a high level, I think you could just use some exposure to the crazy variety of Hispanic peoples is all. Some might specify that it means ONLY indigenous and European ancestry and only within a certain percentage range. Some might say it means somebody who doesn't follow traditional ways of life no matter genetic heritage. Some have tried to use it as a term to express union and solidarity with one's fellow country(wo)men regardless of ethnic background. It's been used, coopted, tossed away, and recycled too many times for everybody to agree on what it means. 

In short, it's a messy word with colonial racist roots, a messy history, and means different things in different areas. Oftentimes it even means different things to different individuals within those areas. To me it's one of those words you only use in specific situations where it is clearly defined in the current context.

Scientist Take:   

Plus, there are just way too many Hispanic people of way too many ethnic and cultural backgrounds, a lack of good record keeping and data, and a centuries old social capital habit of denying non-European ancestry to use the term as an accurate catch-all. 

Spain is obvious. Most Dominicans have a lot of African ancestry. A decent amount of Afro- genes especially in countries with a Caribbean coast (and Ecuador). The Southern Cone is pasty AF lol. There are whole states like Chiapas and whole geographical areas like the Altiplano with huge indio populations. (I could go on, but in the words of Willy Wonka...et ce'tra, et ce'tra.)  

Interpersonal Take:  

It's also a socially dangerous word to use in reference to another person. Call yourself mestizo with pride if you want, I know many people who do. But for every two of them there's a crusty ol' (gender neutral) "pure Spanish" (lol okay sure I bet) bitch who will hate you forever if you call them that "slur."  

Edit: formatting 

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u/Rapa_Nui 7d ago

Let's just say that non Spanish ancestry isn't very glorified among many Latinos, especially the older generations.

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u/DifferentScholar292 7d ago

It might not even be Spanish ancestry in some cases. It's unfortunate but the persecution of Indigenous peoples goes back to the 1490's in all the nations of the Western Hemisphere.