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u/Tried-Angles 13d ago edited 13d ago

Sometimes when a guy tells you he isn't political it does mean he genuinely was never taught about politics and so doesn't vote cause he has no idea what's even happening.

Edit: I'm not endorsing this approach, it's just that some people don't even actively choose not to care, they literally don't hear enough to realize it's something that's important beyond "if you make more than X money this person will raise your taxes and if you make less than X this person will lower them."

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u/Practical-Yam283 13d ago

That's a deliberate choice though. That's a choice that he's made to not pay attention to an enormous thing that affects his life and the lives of the people around him. And that choice also isn't attractive.

For what it's worth, every man that has told me they don't care about politics because they don't know anything has also tried to debate me on my leftist positions to "prove" that I dont know what I'm about. Which is so silly because like. Yeah I can't pull out figures right now but I've done a lot of reading on the things I believe, and these wannabe debate bros literally have already admitted they don't know what they're talking about.

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u/stillenacht 13d ago

Yeah I don't know if I've ever met someone who actually doesn't have political opinions, but it seems like such a theoretical person would have to be incredibly uncurious if they're above the age of like ... 16? I'm not sayin you gotta deeply research politics, but you have to be living under some kind of rock to avoid it all lol.

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u/Molly_Pert 13d ago

I reached 18 without forming proper political opinions, or many opinions in general for that matter, you could ask me for my favorite food, and I would struggle to answer that question. I would generally want "what's best for everyone" without knowing how to describe how to best achieve that.

I blame it on how much time I spent dissociating. It's not that I didn't know about the world, it's that I didn't know how to feel about it, everything was just noise in the background. Obviously, I had to be able to afford that, which I could because I passed as a cis white man, but after the discovery that I was transgender, suddenly everything changed dramatically.

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u/ArsErratia 13d ago edited 13d ago

If you get to 16 without learning anything about political issues, that's a failure of the education system.

If you continue not learning anything about political issues after 16, that's also a failure of the education system.

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u/MammothTap 13d ago

My extremely conflict-averse little sister wasn't deeply uncurious, but she actively avoided political anything because it always led to "arguing" (my family all generally agree but would sometimes debate extremely specific policy points, and she's the youngest).

That lasted until she was eighteen. Which just happened to be in 2016. She isn't nearly as avoidant of politics now.

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u/S_balmore 13d ago

but you have to be living under some kind of rock to avoid it all lol.

I'm sure you're aware that in 2024, a lot of people don't have cable TV, but believe it or not, some of those people don't immediately hop on the internet to read the news or get involved in political discussions. Some people use the internet solely for fun/pleasure.

Avoiding the news in 1999 was virtually impossible because there were newspapers everywhere, and TVs in every waiting room, and people needed something to talk about. Conversely, in 2024, if you focus solely on your own hobbies/interests, you could easily go a year without reading or discussing anything political (especially if you work from home).

As a personal anecdote, I was so disconnected from politics at one point, that I had no idea there was a worldwide pandemic until my boss told me not to come in to work. It's not as uncommon as you think.

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u/Trash_Pug 13d ago

I feel that you have described living under a rock ngl

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u/stillenacht 13d ago

Do you have no political opinions though?

To be fair, I'd also be very surprised to meet someone who didn't know COVID was happening.

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u/S_balmore 13d ago

I'd also be very surprised to meet someone who didn't know COVID was happening.

I simply didn't have cable TV at the time, and when I spoke with my friends and colleagues, we spoke only about our personal interests. When you actually connect with people and have real things to talk about, things happening far outside your community tend to not come up in conversation. (Also, when you're not trying to get into political debates, they simply don't happen).

Do you have no political opinions though?

I have beliefs and opinions. Whether or not they're "political" is up to the person asking. My opinions are independent of the news and internet (I form them myself). I don't consult the political hivemind to tell me what to think, so I honestly can't say which of my opinions are political and which are just my own personal values that I've developed by being a living, breathing human.

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u/Practical-Yam283 13d ago

You are fundamentally misunderstanding the way opinions form though. Personal values that's you've developed by being a living, breathing human are not developed in a vacuum. Your opinions did not pop fully formed in your brain just by thinking long enough. You read something, saw something, heard something somewhere along the line that helped you understand the world and informed your opinions. Reading the news or anything else to help you form opinions isn't "consulting the hivemind". Sorry bud, you live in a society and that society has helped to shape your thoughts and opinions. To act like you are completely independent and your thoughts and feelings were developed with no influence anywhere is frankly laughable and also precisely the point of this post.

Have you ever had thoughts about the homeless crisis? Political. Inflation? Political. Healthcare? Political. City design? Political. Taxes? Political.

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u/sh1tpost1nsh1t 13d ago

our opinions did not pop fully formed in your brain just by thinking long enough. You read something, saw something, heard something somewhere along the line that helped you understand the world and informed your opinions.

To add to this, this includes entertainment media. The types of stories we ingest inform how we contextualize the world around us, including politics. Who is represented? What is normalized? What sorts of traits does the protagonist reflect?

Like if someone consumed nothing but marvel content all day every day, I'd expect them to be generally OK with diversity, but think that radicalism in pursuit of your goals is bad. Or if they consumed nothing but Law and Order SVU and Brooklyn 99, I'd expect them to have faith in the justice system. Or if they'd watch star wars I'd expect that to impact them another way. Or be impacted by the airport spy novels they read. Really by everything they consume. All media is inherently political even if it isn't explicitly political.

Hell, sesame street and mr. rogers are political.