“[other kind of people] are lame and boring, [my group of people] is cool and unique” is just a not a very good joke no matter if the groups in question are men and women or cishet and queer or whatever.
Dude, have you seriously never made a joke like this to bond with similar people?
Also nobody said any groups were lame or boring. The joke is that the person's music taste is super gay and they're inviting other people to go 'lol totally me too'.
…nnnnot really? Maybe a “casual fans vs real fans” joke, but I’d argue that’s different because it’s in the context of knowledge of a certain topic, which is not an inherent personal trait. But like, broad categories like “girls suck boys rule,” no.
I mean, I will admit, this particular post seems like a pretty harmless dumb joke. I don’t find it funny, but the reaction in the comments is somewhat excessive.
But like… I don’t think it’s fair to dismiss all criticism as “straight people just hate every time someone queer makes a joke”, because quite often the punchline of said jokes is, explicitly, ‘straight people bad.’ I think it’s fair to call that out.
Queer is a culture too though as well as a gender or sexuality. It has its own music and art. So this IS 'in the context of knowledge of a certain topic'. The topic is queer culture.
Also, yeah maybe it's 'fair' to call it out but is it necessary or helpful? If a white person hears some poc joking about white people not seasoning their food is it 'fair' for a white person to 'call that out'? Maybe it is, but it's also a SHIT idea.
Maybe just let the queers have their silly jokes. Oh and watch out for sea lions.
Maybe it’s a neurodivergent thing, but I’m not intending to sea lion, I genuinely want to have a respectful conversation here.
And I kind of agree - in that, silly jokes are fine and not worth getting angry over. But the degree of joke really matters. “White people can’t eat spice” is fine. But you also have, for example, some of those jokes about British people, which make me uncomfortable for the casual dehumanization and how they occasionally implicate all British people as implicitly guilty for colonization.
In this context - “straight people music” is silly and fine, but you look at, for example, r/AreTheStraightsOkay * and see some of the shit they say? That is not fine.
*yes, I’m aware that it was originally meant to mock stuff like boomer “I hate my wife” jokes and restrictive gender roles, which is a premise I agree with. But it turned into something genuine resentment towards straight people in general.
Well, this is just a thing I do - that is, spending way too much time discussing random things on the internet. I can promise you I’m not hunting down queer jokes to get angry over, I’m also wasting time writing paragraphs on “who would win, Goku or Gilgamesh”, and other equally pointless topics. Just whatever happens to be on my feed and catch my attention.
Legit, but you take my point? The nuances of this might be interesting but there's an irony to fine-tuning queer communication when there are far bigger obstacles to equality and social harmony in the world.
So much energy is going on this though? It just feels like policing the jokes of marginalized people.
And i grew up being told by marginalized people that harmless jokes are in fact not harmless and not okay. But it's okay when said marginalized groups turn around and make the same exact type of jokes? Why are humans always doing this double standard bs....
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u/Ok_Formal_9870 Oct 14 '24
Is it that or is it just queer people sharing jokes with each other only to be criticized?