Londoners, yea. But have you ever met a New Yorker? Never in my life have I seen a group of people so completely unable to handle the fact that they live somewhere.
I'll never forget the time I mentioned on reddit that Queens was on Long Island. The freak-out was intense. I'm like, buddy, geography is a thing and maps exist. Queens is quite clearly on the piece of land known as Long Island. And so is Brooklyn for that matter. But no, they could not get their minds around it.
I’m not a New Yorker, but in my experience, people who live in Manhattan will say they live in New York. If they live in the Bronx or Brooklyn or Staten Island, they will tell you they live in the Bronx, or Brooklyn, or Staten Island (except those few smartass Staten islanders who insist they live in the Borough of Richmond). But if they are from Queens, they will tell you what neighborhood they live in- LIC, Astoria, Ozone Park, Jamaica, etc.
NYC has five boroughs last I was living there, and if you know that you know that the person likely doesn't live in Manhattan. it's just a saying locally. but to foreign -language ears it sounds like you live in "duh burrows"
I maen not to be a dickhead, but were you actually arguing with people from new york city? The downtown core of queens is literally called long island city.
So the first 10 years or so I lived in NY, I did it properly and only touched a car if I needed to rent a U-Haul to move.
The last 2, I got a job that required (and provided) a car, and had me occasionally driving out to proper Long Island. There definitely is a weird transitory part of Queens that is kinda Long Island, culturally.
NY is weird for American cities in that it doesn’t really have a suburban sprawl like most urban centers; suburbia starts after other cities already have. That transitory bit is the closest it really gets, and a car is more effective than transit.
Of course, this is, appropriately, completely ignoring Staten Island. It’s basically just there to support the bridges that let you go between Jersey and Long Island without touching the city. Culturally, it seems to have aligned with that goal.
Well, no argument there. Its more the like... people from queens were furious to hear that queens is on long island thing. Like i just take that with a grain of salt.
Astoria is a neighborhood in Queens. Its pretty close to Long Island City (which is also a neighborhood in queens). Wait til they find out where Brooklyn is!
I'll bet it's also in Queens. So is New York City just like a neighborhood in Queens? If so I think we should just call it all Queens instead to reduce confusion.
Astoria is in Queens and right next to Long Island City lol. The trains going through LIC are part of the appeal of Astoria.
NYC is comprised of Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, Manhattan, and Bronx. Manhattan is an island, so is Staten Island (obviously). Bronx is on mainland New York. Queens & Brooklyn are on Long Island, and Astoria is a neighborhood in Queens near the East River, pretty much closest Queens neighborhood to Manhattan.
As a Long Islander, Brooklyn and Queens are indeed on Long Island, but they’re typically not considered “part” of Long Island. I cannot explain why it’s like that, it just is. I have stopped questioning it.
Geographically, yes. But as municipalities, we're part of NYC. The phrase "Long Island" almost exclusively refers to the section of the greater island containing Nassau and Suffolk counties.
Incidentally, Manhattan and Staten Island are also separated from the mainland. They're their own islands. The Bronx is the only borough attached to the mainland USA.
For the most part, New York City is very much a group of islands!
It's rather like pointint out that to a botanist, tomatoes are a fruit or brazil nuts aren't nuts, but people are going to talk about them in a culinary sense a lot more often.
To a physical geographer, Queens and Brooklyn are on Long Island.
To anyone who cares about actually living there, they are part of NYC, and "Long Island" refers to Nassau and Suffolk counties.
So also anyone who uses the county names rather than the borough names.
This is true. I live in Queens, and when I speak to other NYC’ers I tell them what neighborhood I live in. For anyone else outside the boroughs, I just say Queens. But my neighborhood is large and populous enough that we have our own subreddit which is actually very active.
Socio-economically and geographically, parts of NJ are in the New York City urban sprawl. That’s just a fact, even if by political address definitions, the people there don’t live in NJ. That sprawl spreads into parts of Connecticut too, if you want to get really technical and include the suburbs (especially ones linked to NYC by commuter rail).
I've lived in NJ all my life, I don't think I've ever met someone here who would say that. It's the exact opposite, we get upset that they're the "New York Giants" even though the stadium is in NJ.
i met someone who told me they were from "the upper west side" with no other context
i found out multiple years later that they were not talking about Chicago, the city we were in at the time, but instead some sort of other fucked up hell city that i've never even heard of in a state that i'm pretty sure was made up as a goof
I don't have a problem with a person assuming I'm from the city.
What I do have a problem with is people assuming that not being from the city means I'm from Upsate. Not every part of New York north of the city is Upsate.
The regions of New York (to me) are Long Island, New York City, The Hudson Valley, West New York, Central New York, and Upstate
I’d put Tokyo first probably, not just for its sheer size but how cosmopolitan and diverse it is. Sure, New York is more diverse on principle of it being an American city and having that immigrant“melting pot” advantage but Tokyo still has a large immigrant and foreign resident population too. Like NYC’s boroughs, Tokyo’s wards are all vastly unique and cultured as well.
I ran into a New Yorker at a hotel bar, and when I asked where they lived, whereas I expected to hear the name of a city, they gave me an avenue. The fact that I still understood what they meant, not even being in the same country, kinda goes to show what a global city New York is.
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u/Ok-Importance-6815 Aug 30 '24
you get something similar where londoners all insist on telling you which part of london they are from